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Do you question the history you've been taught in HS and college?

Posted on 7/7/26 at 7:43 pm
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 7:43 pm
Obvi. if you got your education through entertainment.

Don't bother...


And I expect, but welcome very different responses from any Academy peeps.

Posted by Gee Grenouille
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 8:24 pm to
Everything before 1776 is of no use to me. Next question.
Posted by jeffsdad
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 8:27 pm to
Nope. I finished before the democrats developed their intense hatred of the United States and began contaminating textbooks.
Posted by Purple Spoon
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 8:34 pm to
The older I get the more I think about Norm McDonalds joke about the Good guys always winning.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 8:46 pm to
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Everything before 1776 is of no use to me. Next question.


Posted by LemmyLives
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 8:47 pm to
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Everything before 1776 is of no use to me

The Federalist papers? Thomas Paine and Common Sense?

I had an AP US History teacher start on us with the "the Constitution is a living document" bullshite in 11th grade. Thankfully, I had an adjunct prof at LSU help me figure out why that was bad. Prior to him making us read, "The Myth of the Noble Savage," and other books, and explaining why the pre-marxists wanted rights enumerated so they could take everything that wasn't enumerated from us, I got more militant. Almost all of it was before 1776.
Posted by Bullfrog
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 8:56 pm to
Most people do not realize the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution are in opposition to one another.

One lets you take freedom and the other allows it to be taken.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 9:02 pm to
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Everything before 1776 is of no use to me

The Federalist papers? Thomas Paine and Common Sense?

I had an AP US History teacher start on us with the "the Constitution is a living document" bullshite in 11th grade. Thankfully, I had an adjunct prof at LSU help me figure out why that was bad. Prior to him making us read, "The Myth of the Noble Savage," and other books, and explaining why the pre-marxists wanted rights enumerated so they could take everything that wasn't enumerated from us, I got more militant. Almost all of it was before 1776.
Magna Carta,


Cicero


Posted by thegambler
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 9:13 pm to
Of course! It's all one sided
Posted by Junky
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 9:23 pm to
There are nuances that are never taught like Nixon sweeping and the liberal narrative not even speaking on it, only watergate.

MLK being an adulterer

Midway being the turning point of the pacific when it really was Guadalcanal.

The American German population before WWI.

Now I hate the resurgence of we shouldn’t have dropped the bomb. Absolute lunacy.

Understanding who Willis “Ching” Lee was

I think how close we came to nuclear war during the Cuban missile crisis is glossed over.

Required reading: Blind Man’s Bluff, Empire of the Summer Moon, (understand what) The Gulag Archipelago (was about, it’s a bitch of a read but needed)

There are a ton of perspectives that we should take into account that are shunned these days.

Flipping George Washington lived a very interesting life before the revolution for crying out loud.

Of course, there is never enough time to learn perspective.

I think history is a bastard if what it should be in school. I think too many English classes are required when History is overlooked. Proper grammar is important, but Beawulf is not. You can mix actual history with proper English dialect to complete the story.

The education curriculum is a disaster currently. We teach to tests, not actual interests.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 9:27 pm to
See if I'm being honest, that's just not my experience in high school and certainly not college, but that's kind of an unreasonable measuring stick.

And maybe it was because I grew up in Texas in the 70s and 80s but y'all would have grown up in Louisiana and in that era, we got a traditional Western Civilization education in high school. Y'all are telling me they taught liberal stuff in your time?

And it may have just been my experience since history was my thing, and I may have been more engaged, but what they're teaching kids now was nowhere near my education.

There was an LSU Prof. Civil War guy that was in a syllabus at Rice,
Posted by LemmyLives
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 9:34 pm to
1/2 of my ed was in DoDDS (Department of Defense School Systems) in some other country. It was where teachers supposedly went to retire. However, I had a variation of teachers, not the monolithic liberal fest that was probably common in school at the time. My Econ teacher, across from the US history teacher, would pound into us (I think she was from Massachusets) There is no such thing as a free lunch. Probably the most important lesson ever. The equivalent happens in physics and chemistry, but it doesn't hit the same way in the econ experience.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 9:45 pm to
I had T shirt in high school that was a worm on a hook and a fish about to bite it and then another fish about to bite that fish and so on and so on was one of my favorite shirts

Posted by LaBR4
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 9:56 pm to
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if you got your education through entertainment.





Posted by REB BEER
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 9:58 pm to
My favorite teacher in HS used to tell us “history is just a bunch of lies that have been agreed to”

This came from a Marine Korean War Purple Heart recipient.

He also said that the winners of the wars always get to write the history books.
This post was edited on 7/7/26 at 10:00 pm
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:04 pm to
Had a professor who basically said that the Alamo was Travis, Crockett, and Bowie were committing what would now be called suicide by cop at the Alamo

Hated that at the time, but those guys, with their lives who were comparing themselves to Patriots .. ?

I see it in the way soldiers who tell their Nam stories, that resignation to we all gotta die, this is as good a way to do it as any.


Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:08 pm to
Amen
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:10 pm to
Question? No. Everything was taught pretty accurately. But I question things in general. I don’t feel like there was anything hidden or sanitized in what I was taught historically.
This post was edited on 7/7/26 at 10:11 pm
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:11 pm to
Nope, but I was a social studies major in the Bible Belt. I did question some of my more liberal education and English teachers though.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 10:15 pm to
I assumed on this board and its demographics . Your experience would be typical.


No one was even allowed to be gay at my HS, in Texas before a black President? no way

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