re: Do you consider a 1000% price change increase over a 20 year period reasonable?

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But college shouldn’t be about job training. Students should be getting a well rounded, HIGHER education. They’re supposed to be well read, well versed, and well studied across a wide array of subjects that provide them the opportunity to be productive citizens in a society. That SHOULD require a rigorous admissions process to minimize unqualified students from attending. And it shouldn’t cost an arm and a leg to be there.

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Job skills aren’t very hard to acquire. Learning how to think is hard, and that is what we should be teaching in higher education. Going to a vocational model is a terrible idea

My daughter wants to be an elementary school teacher. The financial reality doesn’t make any sense. The cost of a college degree, combined with lost wages during study, will take decades to recover through a teacher’s salary.

We got to lower education costs, explore alternatives to four-year degrees like streamlined certifications, or significantly raise teacher pay to make the profession financially sustainable.

Almost like there was a program designed by the government to help kids go to college in state. Not join the reserves for free instate tuition or anything like that. Something else...... I wonder when TOPS started in relation to this price excitement......LOL

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significantly raise teacher pay to make the profession financially sustainable.

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Teaching is an Mrs. degree. They get paid about what they're worth. No offense, of course. There shouldn't be "teaching" degrees to begin with. You want to teach English? Get an English/Lit degree, and take a class or two on classroom management. But the unions won't allow that, they need to make sure that teachers essentially have no marketable skills other than teaching, so they're mostly trapped in the system.

1. Loans are the problem regardless of the lender. Neither the Fed nor private lenders do anything to underwrite these loans. Start basing it on high school performance and intended major, and then only continue to lend if satisfactory academic progress is being made (3.0 or higher). The difficulty of getting a student loan should be in the ballpark of a business loan or a mortgage.

2. Text books are the biggest scam. Zero reason they need to release multiple editions. My calculus book was 4th edition when I was in college. It's on the 9th edition now. Calculus has not changed in decades. The structural mechanics book I used is on it's 11th edition. Not enough has changed their to be of any value.

3. The stop the notion our kids must have a college degree. Lot's of useless degrees out there. We've essentially stigmatized kids not going to college, and a lot of the jobs these kids end up having nothing to do with education they supposedly received. I say supposedly because...

4. College should be difficult and it's time to start weeding the kids out that clearly aren't learning to think and are skating by. It's a waste of time and money.

None of this will happen unless we see the bubble burst.

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Agree and disagree.

If college is just a gatekeeper for higher paying jobs and it costs a frickload of money to get through the gate, then yes, get rid of any survey and elective courses.

But college shouldn’t be about job training. Students should be getting a well rounded, HIGHER education. They’re supposed to be well read, well versed, and well studied across a wide array of subjects that provide them the opportunity to be productive citizens in a society. That SHOULD require a rigorous admissions process to minimize unqualified students from attending. And it shouldn’t cost an arm and a leg to be there.

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Mostly agree, but what do you mean by wide array? My civil engineering curriculum at the time required 6 hours humanities, 6 hours social sciences, and 3 hours fine arts. English I and II, Chemistry I & II, Physics I - III, Calculus I-IV, and public speaking made up the prerequisite stuff. Everything else was directly applicable to the major and became more focused the closer to graduation. Out of 133 credit hours, that's 15 elective, 36 prereq, and the rest major focused.

I thought that was pretty good balance. Curious if this is what you're talking about.

I had Saints season tickets starting in the 2006 Season.

They went from $500.00 per seat to $1,750.00 per seat (this upcoming year) in that time for the exact same seats.

The BLS site says adjusted for inflation they should be $800.00 each today vs over twice that.



(Happy Ending: I did not renew)

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This is what happens when "everyone" needs a degree for every basic job

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Which has also decreased the value of the degree, so the ROI has gone to complete shite.

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It’s available to anyone regardless of income and is merit based.

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Getting a 20 on the ACT is hardly merit based. Look I used it…. And subsequently shipped off out of state upon graduation, putting no tax dollars back in the state that paid my college tuition. Objectively a bad deal for the state, and that is the most common outcome for higher performing students from Louisiana