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re: Do you believe rap/hip hop music has been a net positive or negative for society?
Posted on 3/28/19 at 11:36 am to Slagathor
Posted on 3/28/19 at 11:36 am to Slagathor
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The late 60’s early 70’s rock turned middle class white kids into anti-American shitheads.
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But free love, man.
Middle class white kids need to do more of that stuff. Take a year off and travel the country, live life on the edge a bit. Don't live on parents money, see small towns, big cities, national parks...
This post was edited on 3/28/19 at 11:38 am
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Posted on 3/28/19 at 11:37 am to mmmmmbeeer
The difference is Nickelback didn't tell teenagers it was cool to rob people and frick their bitch. They also weren't racist
Posted on 3/28/19 at 11:41 am to The Funnie Five
Posted on 3/28/19 at 11:41 am to Collegedropout
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The difference is Nickelback didn't tell teenagers it was cool to rob people and frick their bitch. They also weren't racist
Could someone please contact Nickelback and help get them in touch with their last fan? Roger, I completely agree
Posted on 3/28/19 at 11:41 am to TbirdSpur2010
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I think blaming a music genre for societal ills is pretty pedantic.
Yeah it's very stupid. The societal ills came first, and these rappers and artists just responded to it. It doesn't glorify behavior show much as shows a cross-section of behaviors that developed independently of rap.
There is a lot of skill and hard work involved in making a beat, and that beat having the right cadence for someone to rap over. Developing a flow takes talent too.
Posted on 3/28/19 at 11:42 am to Collegedropout
There’s no problem with that. I’m just saying the large majority of this age group does like it. The older generations hate it. I understand their points too, it’s just personal preference.
Posted on 3/28/19 at 11:48 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Middle class white kids need to do more of that stuff. Take a year off and travel the country, live life on the edge a bit. Don't live on parents money, see small towns, big cities, national parks...
Are you going to fund my trip? No? Well then back to work I go.
Posted on 3/28/19 at 11:49 am to DeafJam73
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Are you going to fund my trip?
No sense of adventure
Posted on 3/28/19 at 11:55 am to crazy4lsu
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The societal ills came first, and these rappers and artists just responded to it. It doesn't glorify behavior show much as shows a cross-section of behaviors that developed independently of rap.
Exactly.
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There is a lot of skill and hard work involved in making a beat, and that beat having the right cadence for someone to rap over. Developing a flow takes talent too.
Yup, it's like any other art form--most can't just roll out of bed one day and do it.
I listen to pretty much any kind of music and can enjoy it. People who say rap is to blame for society's problems are the same type of folks who blamed rock and roll or television or radio for the same back in their respective days.
Posted on 3/28/19 at 11:58 am to TbirdSpur2010
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People who say rap is to blame for society's problems are the same type of folks who blamed rock and roll or television or radio for the same back in their respective days.
I don't blame it, it just doesn't work for me.
I'll say the same for "bro country" and pop.
Posted on 3/28/19 at 12:09 pm to TheTexasTiger7
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I’m 17 and honestley understand your points, but I listen to it everyday, and that’s just what’s popular now. I listen to it, and it doesn’t have a negative effect on me. Prepared for some downvotes here, but I love it. To anyone who has kids my age or will, they will love it to.
I’m 31, and I was bumping the shite out of some T Grizz this weekend.
The OP has some valid points, but the majority of my friends listen to rap/hip hop and we’re all educated middle class to upper middle class white baws (outside of our one token black friend who is a computer programmer
)Posted on 3/28/19 at 12:14 pm to Collegedropout
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I have never heard that song. The vast majority of rock songs you could listen to with your kids cause they don't know what they're talking about. You can't say the same for rap. I think rock music is degenerate too, so you aren't exactly changing my mind about anything. Rock is quite obviously not as bad as rap though.
Cocaine? You've never heard of that song? Holy shite, you kids these days.
Posted on 3/28/19 at 12:16 pm to metalfacedterrorist
Ill add Run the Jewels is blowing shite up right now and they actually get radio play.
Posted on 3/28/19 at 12:20 pm to TheTexasTiger7
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I’m 17 and honestley understand your points, but I listen to it everyday, and that’s just what’s popular now. I listen to it, and it doesn’t have a negative effect on me. Prepared for some downvotes here, but I love it. To anyone who has kids my age or will, they will love it to.
I shite you not. My 13 yr old's Playlist on Spotify called "Favorite Ghetto Music" That boy is a little odd.
But at his age we idolized 2 Live Crew, Ice T(he used to be VERY different
), and NWA sooooo.... I can't really judge kids today too harshly. 
Posted on 3/28/19 at 12:22 pm to The Funnie Five
I'd say it's a wash. Hip-Hop as a whole has provided a way for many people to make a better life for themselves.
It really goes back to the old adage, does music affect culture, or does culture affect music?
On one hand, people make music that reflects their livelihoods. These rappers aren't making music about murder, money, hoes just for the heck of it. For many that is the life they live. It is all they know. In this instance, the music is not the problem. But rather the culture is. Hell, for many guys, they aren't even glorifying this lifestyle. Making music for many is their release, or even a cry for help sometimes.
On the other hand, music does affect culture sometimes too. When all you listen to is nothing but " frick with me I'm a run in your spot shoot your grandmother up, frick yo btch for fun then Ill leave her out to rot". Then for many, they want to live a lifestyle that emulates what they hear. I guarantee you for any of these guys in this street lifestyle, if they are on the way to rob someone, or shoot someone. They are not riding in listening to some smooth R&B.
It really goes back to the old adage, does music affect culture, or does culture affect music?
On one hand, people make music that reflects their livelihoods. These rappers aren't making music about murder, money, hoes just for the heck of it. For many that is the life they live. It is all they know. In this instance, the music is not the problem. But rather the culture is. Hell, for many guys, they aren't even glorifying this lifestyle. Making music for many is their release, or even a cry for help sometimes.
On the other hand, music does affect culture sometimes too. When all you listen to is nothing but " frick with me I'm a run in your spot shoot your grandmother up, frick yo btch for fun then Ill leave her out to rot". Then for many, they want to live a lifestyle that emulates what they hear. I guarantee you for any of these guys in this street lifestyle, if they are on the way to rob someone, or shoot someone. They are not riding in listening to some smooth R&B.
Posted on 3/28/19 at 12:23 pm to MightyYat
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Cocaine? You've never heard of that song?
Was actually anti drug.
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If your day is gone, and you want to ride on, cocaine
Don't forget this fact, you can't get it back, cocaine
She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie,
Cocaine
She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie,
Cocaine
Posted on 3/28/19 at 12:26 pm to crazy4lsu
quote:Yes, at first. But, now it fosters and advertises a lifestyle that people want to emulate. Advertising works, we are influenced by the media that surrounds us, hence the millions upon billions spent in advertising. At this point Rap is one of the causes of the ills you see.
. The societal ills came first, and these rappers and artists just responded to it
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There is a lot of skill and hard work involved in making a beat, and that beat having the right cadence for someone to rap over. Developing a flow takes talent too.
Alot? No. A little? Possibly.Posted on 3/28/19 at 12:31 pm to The Funnie Five
negative because it promotes the thuglife plus the music sucks and they rip off other musicians copyrighted music.
Posted on 3/28/19 at 12:32 pm to Jake88
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Alot? No. A little? Possibly
Oh please people that say stupid shite like this have never attempted to put a rhyme or a beat together. If they do it's so terrible it's cringe worthy then they sell it like see look how easy it is I just did it. Speaking as someone who used to be a underground hip-hop artist you are full of shite.
Posted on 3/28/19 at 12:37 pm to mindbreaker
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Speaking as someone who used to be a underground hip-hop artist
I bet that was some funny shite
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