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re: Do you Believe In An Afterlife?
Posted on 9/26/25 at 8:46 am to Boodis Man
Posted on 9/26/25 at 8:46 am to Boodis Man
I believe we turn into angels when we die.
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Posted on 9/26/25 at 9:07 am to The Third Leg
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What’s odd? Read this 100+ response thread filled with people absolutely certain of the afterlife, though there is zero evidence of such a thing.
Present many of these same people with mountains of data and evidence of a problem we could and should fix, they’ll tell you it’s a conspiracy; a part of the liberal agenda to indoctrinate people so the one world globalist government can launch.
Could you present an example of a problem that people who believe in eternal life refuse to acknowledge or "fix?"
Posted on 9/26/25 at 9:09 am to SallysHuman
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zero evidence
I'm intrigued by what would be considered evidence in his mind. Not specific evidence as it applies to this case of what is essentially theism, but how does one define evidence in a general sense?
Posted on 9/26/25 at 9:11 am to wareaglepete
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I believe we turn into angels when we die.
Posted on 9/26/25 at 12:07 pm to SallysHuman
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What is a problem you think is better solved without belief in God or eternity?
Most problems have nothing to do with whether one believes in god or eternal souls
Posted on 9/26/25 at 12:19 pm to Boodis Man
Before, no. We are all created beings.
After, yes. The odds of us being a circumstance of random chance that gains consciousness and then loses it are impossible to take seriously. There is a Creator, and if there is a Creator, then there is a purpose.
Almost every accepted version of faith includes and afterlife. I don't think that's a coincidence.
After, yes. The odds of us being a circumstance of random chance that gains consciousness and then loses it are impossible to take seriously. There is a Creator, and if there is a Creator, then there is a purpose.
Almost every accepted version of faith includes and afterlife. I don't think that's a coincidence.
Posted on 9/26/25 at 12:37 pm to YouKnowImRight
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Before, no. We are all created beings.
After, yes. The odds of us being a circumstance of random chance that gains consciousness and then loses it are impossible to take seriously. There is a Creator, and if there is a Creator, then there is a purpose.
Almost every accepted version of faith includes and afterlife. I don't think that's a coincidence.
This is where I land. You either believe in the supernatural or you believe in the impossible. Either some source outside of nature started all of this or nothing became alot of something and organized itself for no particular reason or purpose. At least the supernatural, albeit mind-bending to consider, is not impossible.
This post was edited on 9/26/25 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 9/26/25 at 12:52 pm to Boodis Man
Yes. One of my best friends died in a car accident when we were in college and he and his family were/are devout Catholics. About two years ago Jesus visited my buddy’s dad in a dream and brought my friend with Him to reveal to him that he was safe with Him in heaven. My friend’s dad said he has never had a dream like that before and that it was more of a vision and the most vivid experience of his life. There are too many stories like this for me not to believe in an afterlife.
This post was edited on 9/26/25 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 9/26/25 at 12:57 pm to Boodis Man
After
Posted on 9/26/25 at 1:28 pm to Boodis Man
I'll fly a starship
Across the Universe divide
And when I reach the other side
I'll find a place to rest my spirit if I can
Perhaps I may become a highwayman again
Or I may simply be a single drop of rain
But I will remain
And I'll be back again
And again and again and again and again and again and again
Across the Universe divide
And when I reach the other side
I'll find a place to rest my spirit if I can
Perhaps I may become a highwayman again
Or I may simply be a single drop of rain
But I will remain
And I'll be back again
And again and again and again and again and again and again
Posted on 9/26/25 at 2:13 pm to JiminyCricket
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At least the supernatural, albeit mind-bending to consider, is not impossible.
You’re attributing a lack of understanding in something to it must be impossible and then inventing a convenient way to explain it though
Posted on 9/26/25 at 2:21 pm to lsudave1
quote:That's enough evidence for you? A devout Catholic with a terrible loss dreams about it? It is a psychologically comforting dream, but it's in no way evidence.
There are too many stories like this for me not to believe in an afterlife
Posted on 9/26/25 at 2:23 pm to DavidTheGnome
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inventing a convenient way to explain it though
What's your convenient way of explaining through the odds against human life spontaneously starting from chance being 1 in 10^400?
This post was edited on 9/26/25 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 9/26/25 at 2:25 pm to TygerTyger
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And every faithful dog I’ve ever lost will be waiting there for me
This.
Posted on 9/26/25 at 2:25 pm to Jake88
I don’t need evidence, that’s why it’s called faith and not evidence. I choose to believe it, it’s fine if others don’t. We’ll either find out definitively one day or we won’t. I’ll also tell you that if you don’t believe in the supernatural go work in a hospital or mental institution like I have and see some of the weird unexplainable shite that occurs in a place where many people have passed away.
Posted on 9/26/25 at 2:29 pm to DavidTheGnome
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You’re attributing a lack of understanding in something to it must be impossible and then inventing a convenient way to explain it though
This is a common retort to creationism but it’s a misrepresentation. We don’t default to creationism because we simply don’t know or understand how the universe was created. We default to creationism because we already know and have proven that it’s is 100% impossible for nothing with nothing acting on it to suddenly explode into something and that resulting something is finely tuned and organized.
Put it this way, do you think it’s possible that we will one day discover a scientific explanation for an empty room with nothing in it spontaneously exploding and that nothingness becoming a fully assembled F-150?
Keep in mind, the universe existing would require this basic scenario x10000000000000000000.
This post was edited on 9/26/25 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 9/26/25 at 2:31 pm to Jake88
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That's enough evidence for you?
How do you define evidence?
Posted on 9/26/25 at 2:34 pm to lsudave1
quote:I agree with you. It's faith, no need for specious evidence.
I don’t need evidence, that’s why it’s called faith and not evidence
quote:I have. Nothing was weird or unexplainable. But, unexplainable shouldn't lead one to a supernatural explanation. It was just beyond your or others' ability to explain at the time.
go work in a hospital
Posted on 9/26/25 at 2:35 pm to JiminyCricket
Something that serves as proof.
Posted on 9/26/25 at 2:37 pm to JiminyCricket
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The odds of us being a circumstance of random chance that gains consciousness and then loses it are impossible to take seriously. There is a Creator, and if there is a Creator, then there is a purpose.
People have credited deities for things they don’t understand for millennia. Thunder, lightning, mental disorders, total eclipses, etc.
Science has discarded many things that were once ignorantly attributed to deities. In all likelihood, anything we don’t know today will be answered tomorrow - or may just be unanswerable for us. And that’s okay. It really is.
The history of science has shown us that supernatural speculation is a poor approach.
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Either some source outside of nature started all of this or nothing became alot of something and organized itself for no particular reason or purpose.
There doesn’t have to be a particular reason or purpose beyond organizational forces such as gravity.
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