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Do kids have less motivation these days?
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:34 am
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:34 am
In my younger days kids seemed more motivated coming out of high school to land a relatively high paying job or get into a good university.
Nowadays kids seem to have a much more lassiez-faire approach to life. Sort of just taking whatever comes to them instead of working and focusing hard on a career path.
Is it cell phones and social media that's causing the distractions? Or after Covid where for some reason people in general seemed to get lazy?
Nowadays kids seem to have a much more lassiez-faire approach to life. Sort of just taking whatever comes to them instead of working and focusing hard on a career path.
Is it cell phones and social media that's causing the distractions? Or after Covid where for some reason people in general seemed to get lazy?
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Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:35 am to BurningHeart
Yes
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:37 am to BurningHeart
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Nowadays kids seem to have a much more lassiez-faire approach to life. Sort of just taking whatever comes to them instead of working and focusing hard on a career path.
It does seem that way, and of course some kids are taking it too far, but I don’t necessarily think not wanting to be a corporate slave and being less materialistic is a bad thing overall
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:37 am to BurningHeart
How old are you?
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:39 am to BurningHeart
They have seen through the mirage of the “American Dream”. Our entire society is a house of cards manipulated by a few with power and money at the top of the food chain. It’s sobering to realize in your 50’s that virtually everything that you were conditioned to believe from birth is bullshite.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:39 am to BurningHeart
Society in general has less motivation.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:41 am to BurningHeart
IDK, I just wanted to drink and party (one of the big reasons I went to LSU for 8 years), but my son has his shite together. Granted, he’s a complete dumbass who couldn’t put a Lego set together…but still.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:41 am to BurningHeart
boomers were doing pauper jobs like selling cars and working in grocery stores in their 20s
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:41 am to BurningHeart
Compared to say, 30-40 years ago, how many high paying or even good living wage jobs exist out there for someone with just a high school diploma?
And it’s worth noting unless you’re specializing in something there’s no good reason to leave your state to attend a University where you’re going to spend over $100k on an education.
I think the issue is more so people are tired. If you’re a kid coming out you’re almost certainly going to need a degree to get a living wage job (no there are not enough trade jobs) and there’s a good chance your upward mobility is thwarted because people are retiring at later ages due to lack of retirement, lack of pensions, etc. Add to it the lack of affordable housing and increasing cost of living, it’s going to be tough for them.
And it’s worth noting unless you’re specializing in something there’s no good reason to leave your state to attend a University where you’re going to spend over $100k on an education.
I think the issue is more so people are tired. If you’re a kid coming out you’re almost certainly going to need a degree to get a living wage job (no there are not enough trade jobs) and there’s a good chance your upward mobility is thwarted because people are retiring at later ages due to lack of retirement, lack of pensions, etc. Add to it the lack of affordable housing and increasing cost of living, it’s going to be tough for them.
This post was edited on 12/10/24 at 9:42 am
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:42 am to BurningHeart
My coworker's teenage son skipped class & got straight Cs, but he would be out the door at 5:30am all summer to go to his welding internship.
Kids are still motivated, but I think most of them are struggling more than ever to find something to pursue
Kids are still motivated, but I think most of them are struggling more than ever to find something to pursue
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:42 am to BurningHeart
When I was a child (as early as 12) I was already enrolled in welding classes and looking at payment plans for future child support payments. Kids these days make me SICK.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:44 am to BurningHeart
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In my younger days kids seemed more motivated coming out of high school to land a relatively high paying job or get into a good university.
Clearly you've never heard of grind culture
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:45 am to BurningHeart
They all want to be influencers, as if that’s some real, sustainable career.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:45 am to BurningHeart
Probably but it seems to be a natural progression.
They called us slackers back in the early 80s when I graduated HS. Most of us found our way somehow.
They called us slackers back in the early 80s when I graduated HS. Most of us found our way somehow.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:46 am to BurningHeart
Materialism has to play a role. And in particular, how much luxury is now accessible to normal people.
Part of this is natural and the consequence of a smaller world from internet/globalization, etc. It's easier to travel internationally or get things that were previously reserved for people living in the best parts of big cities, etc.
But the access to this stuff has to impact motivation somewhat. In terms of pure material success, as a kid we lived in a (what would now be) unremarkable house, parents never drove luxury cars, never took extravagant vacations. Didn't always have the best console or big TVs or luxury brand clothes. So I wanted all that stuff and I wanted to succeed to get it.
I think a lot of middle class kids have that stuff. And if they don't, they see it all over the place and it's less remarkable to them. Again, some of that is natural and the consequence of the environment (a big screen TV wasn't commonplace in my youth, now a 60 inch TV is 200 bucks, etc.).
But I think we're entering a phase where kids nowadays have to worry if they can "maintain" their middle class lifestyle - which is quite comfortable - rather than far surpass it like we hoped. The standard has been upped, but at the same time, achieving the same things seems daunting when a decent house in a good suburb is 700k.
Part of this is natural and the consequence of a smaller world from internet/globalization, etc. It's easier to travel internationally or get things that were previously reserved for people living in the best parts of big cities, etc.
But the access to this stuff has to impact motivation somewhat. In terms of pure material success, as a kid we lived in a (what would now be) unremarkable house, parents never drove luxury cars, never took extravagant vacations. Didn't always have the best console or big TVs or luxury brand clothes. So I wanted all that stuff and I wanted to succeed to get it.
I think a lot of middle class kids have that stuff. And if they don't, they see it all over the place and it's less remarkable to them. Again, some of that is natural and the consequence of the environment (a big screen TV wasn't commonplace in my youth, now a 60 inch TV is 200 bucks, etc.).
But I think we're entering a phase where kids nowadays have to worry if they can "maintain" their middle class lifestyle - which is quite comfortable - rather than far surpass it like we hoped. The standard has been upped, but at the same time, achieving the same things seems daunting when a decent house in a good suburb is 700k.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:47 am to genuineLSUtiger
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They have seen through the mirage of the “American Dream”. Our entire society is a house of cards manipulated by a few with power and money at the top of the food chain. It’s sobering to realize in your 50’s that virtually everything that you were conditioned to believe from birth is bullshite.
Was going to post something like this.
There are certainly other factors at work. Social media, widespread pornography usage, etc.
But younger generations are now witnessing that the "American Dream" isn't all that it was made out to be. Turns out that our fathers and grandfathers worked their asses off, never took sick days, never took vacations, etc. only to retire to the beach at 65 and yet still be a miserable a-hole.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:48 am to BurningHeart
YES
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:49 am to UGATiger26
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But younger generations are now witnessing that the "American Dream" isn't all that it was made out to be.
Because the floor keeps getting lifted through govt spending.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:49 am to BurningHeart
I think they feel like they are being priced out of typical things like owning a house and starting a family. So they don’t want to keep going to a job that they don’t like if it still won’t help them afford typical things like mentioned above. And of course they all want to live in expensive cities to be closer to the “action”
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:50 am to philly444
quote:or they want a job with upward mobility
all want to live in expensive cities to be closer to the “action”
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