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re: Do illegal immigrants pay income tax?

Posted on 10/15/18 at 6:43 am to
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162191 posts
Posted on 10/15/18 at 6:43 am to
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Seems crazy but I just had somebody tell me illegal immigrants pay income tax. How can that possibly be? I'm looking for some OT education on this.



Many of them are operating under a stolen social security number and pay income taxes

This isn't a difficult concept
Posted by Lutcher Lad
South of the Mason-Dixon Line
Member since Sep 2009
5709 posts
Posted on 10/15/18 at 7:37 am to
Illegals are sapping the life out of our tax coffers, both local and federal. We cannot simply push them back across the border due to current laws regarding asylum requests. Instead, we are obligated to house them, feed them, clothe them, provide medical care for them and school them for as long as they are here awaiting their court date, which could be months or years away. Nice set-up if you're coming from a shite-hole country.
Remember...our country was a shite-hole country at one time until we ran the Brits out and took charge!
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
66694 posts
Posted on 10/15/18 at 7:58 am to
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I don't know if they pay or not but we do know your President hasn't paid any for decades. Along with his son in law.


democrats will believe anything they are told.

i heard DT also eats african babies with ketchup for breakfast.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 10/15/18 at 8:06 am to
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I don't know if they pay or not but we do know your President hasn't paid any for decades. Along with his son in law.


1. You don't Know that he hasn't paid income tax or not, but if he hasn't it was done legally. You can debate the merit of NOL carry forwards but only a moron wouldn't use them
2. He has paid taxes, maybe just not income taxes. He's paid probably well into the tens of millions in property and payroll taxes.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
66694 posts
Posted on 10/15/18 at 8:16 am to
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It's funny how all the name callers in this thread cant refute anything. I guess illegals show up to the emergency room and dont pay their medical bills at a higher rate than US citizens like they commit more crimes than the average US citizen. Wait a minute, I'm not saying that because I'm not stupid and actually live in the real world instead of some paranoid place that ignores facts where trump supporters reside. I'll say this then I'm not wasting anymore time on ignorant trumpkins who are a waste of time and oxygen. The biggest reason why the south is last is everything boils down to fear and insecurity. The currency of trump and the reason he elected. You want to see a melting snowflake, you start in trumpland. The end.





let me teach yall how to put together a Tiger n Miami AU83 OT post rebuttal.

Step 1). Get all in your feelings before clicking that "Reply" button. Build up some real steaming butthurt.
Step 2) Slap that "Reply" button without doing any research or having any knowledge whatsoever on the topic you are replying to
Step 3) Act like your point is well known knowledge and written in stone (regardless of not having a link or reference to anything)
Step 4) Call your argument opponent names like snowflake, ignorant, dumb, stupid, etc
Step 5) Throw in as many "trump" or south related insults as you can dream up.
Step 6) Click Submit.
Step 7) Get reamed by the rest of the OT, then conveniently disappear.



here's an example: OT poster creates an OP stating Trump's economy is very example and provides a link with irrefutable evidence.

Ha, you fricking southern hillbilly trumptard. The fact that you really believe this nonsense publication says a lot about where our country is nowadays.

Trump's economy was built on the back of Obama's economy. Once again, the white man profits off the black man's effort. This is the biggest reason ghettos exist. Everyone knows this you ignorant snowflake trumpkin. If you can't see this or understand this you should be sterilized for the sake of humanity.

no, i have no link or any references to anything i'm talking about. But i'll bet $$$$ amount that I have no way of proving I even posses or much less that i will actually pay up when I lose.



This post was edited on 10/15/18 at 8:19 am
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 10/15/18 at 8:17 am to
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This is correct. And considering they are unable to ever receive entitlement benefits like social security, Medicare, and Medicaid, yet they produce a very solid economic output with their work, many pay income taxes and all pay sales taxes and the like, I would say they are easily a net positive for the rest of us taxpayers.

Also, considering the declining birth rate and increasing life expectancy, I would say they are sorely needed as part of the workforce to pay for all of the retired and retiring people.


You sir are stupid and uninformed.

Illegal aliens certainly CAN collect entitlements, and it isn't even a mystery as to how they do it. Simple, hae a kid or ten here and those children are citizens and thus eligible for welfare, and oh who collects that welfare, oh that's right the illegal alien parents.
Posted by Isabelle81
NEW ORLEANS, LA
Member since Sep 2015
2718 posts
Posted on 10/15/18 at 8:32 am to
Do the companies that hire them on the fly pay into their SS and other? Those companies are screwing people who are legally working. It’s just not the illegals.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 10/15/18 at 8:42 am to
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Do the companies that hire them on the fly pay into their SS and other? Those companies are screwing people who are legally working. It’s just not the illegals.




I'm on some local Facebook yard sale sites, there is this one woman almost every week she's in advertising looking for "temporary cash workers" you go in and read and they are hiring people for a week, and paying them cash at the end of the week for construction work as they need help.

It's not hard to figure out that they are targeting illegal aliens. This has been going on for a minimum of 2 years, you would think someone would have put a stop to it by now.

Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
19968 posts
Posted on 10/15/18 at 8:49 am to
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The biggest reason why the south is last is everything boils down to fear and insecurity. The currency of trump and the reason he elected


Trump won because he campaigned hard in the rust belt and Midwest while Hillary ignored those states completely. They call those swing states.


quote:

You want to see a melting snowflake, you start in trumpland.


Or start right with your post. You seem to be the first to bring up a politician in this argument.
Posted by Morty
Member since Feb 2018
2252 posts
Posted on 10/15/18 at 10:38 am to
We need to remember that 40% of all Americans don't pay income tax. They have to file, but that does not mean paying.
This post was edited on 10/16/18 at 12:47 am
Posted by TigerJeff
the Emerald Coast
Member since Oct 2006
16356 posts
Posted on 10/15/18 at 3:54 pm to
truth hurts I guess
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30543 posts
Posted on 10/15/18 at 3:57 pm to
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Don’t know, but those mf’ers work. They do the jobs that our entitlement culture folks won’t touch. I have a lot of respect for their work ethic and the importance they place on family.

You realize if no one did those jobs, they’d have to increase the wages offered, and people would eventually take the jobs, resulting in less Americans in poverty? Yea, illegal immigrants hurt our labor market by undercutting American workers
Posted by MisslePig
Member since Jul 2018
961 posts
Posted on 10/15/18 at 4:15 pm to
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The biggest reason why the south is last is everything boils down to fear and insecurity. The currency of trump and the reason he elected


I LOVE when I hear things like this, you want to know why Trump got elected? Go look in the mirror.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20473 posts
Posted on 10/15/18 at 8:40 pm to
TiM is likely the least intellectual poster on the OT.

It's honestly not worth a rebuttal, because he clearly has some kind of learning disability.
This post was edited on 10/15/18 at 8:41 pm
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
Member since Jan 2007
4947 posts
Posted on 10/15/18 at 8:46 pm to
quote:

quote:
The biggest reason why the south is last is everything boils down to fear and insecurity. The currency of trump and the reason he elected


Trump won because he campaigned hard in the rust belt and Midwest while Hillary ignored those states completely. They call those swing states.


quote:
You want to see a melting snowflake, you start in trumpland.


Or start right with your post. You seem to be the first to bring up a politician in this argument.



I am not even a Trump supporter but I can honestly say that the meltdown of this country and the sheer discombobulation that will accompany the media after this dude is re-elected will be 100X better than watching anything on television in the last century. It will be hilarious.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68420 posts
Posted on 10/15/18 at 9:00 pm to
Actually them sending money back to family members still in the home country hurts all of us.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 10/15/18 at 9:26 pm to
And those same people would use the money to get drunk and high. Then, they wouldn't show up for work (like they do now)
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
7626 posts
Posted on 10/15/18 at 9:30 pm to
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We need to remember that 40% is of all Americans don't pay income tax. They have to file, but that does not mean paying.



This is what is being overlooked in this whole thread. And it is more than 40%. They are not making enough to pay any income tax. In fact, many are getting refunds in the form of tax credits, again all via stolen SSNs. My wife's SSN was stolen and a refund claimed under her number. Was almost certainly an illegal.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 10/15/18 at 9:32 pm to
quote:

fact, many are getting refunds in the form of tax credits


Highly doubtful as the overwhelming majority of tax credits are nonrefundable.

quote:

My wife's SSN was stolen and a refund claimed under her number. Was almost certainly an illegal.



Again, very unlikely
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
7626 posts
Posted on 10/15/18 at 9:35 pm to
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ighly doubtful as the overwhelming majority of tax credits are nonrefundable.



Sorry, but you are just wrong about this.
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