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re: Do employers in Louisiana dislike Southern University?

Posted on 8/19/19 at 12:25 pm to
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 12:25 pm to
I went to Southern... ti be honest most employers don’t care what college you attended as long as they fell you can do the job or jobs assigned to you
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 12:29 pm to
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They graduate accounting students who can barely explain the difference between debits and credits.

they do know the difference between debicks and credicks though
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 12:36 pm to
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This falls squarely on the administration and faculty at Southern.

It would be cheap and easy to have a mandatory all day session for each student showing how to craft a proper resume, how to act/dress in professional situations, and offer a service for resume proofreading/formatting.



or the stupid asses could figure it out on their own utilizing any of the literally hundreds of sources available covering these topics.

I agree it would be nice for the university to offer the service, but would it kill the students to do this shite on their own?
If they can find Worldstar, they can find tips on resume writing and interview attire.

Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
38865 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 12:38 pm to
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This falls squarely on the administration and faculty at Southern.

It would be cheap and easy to have a mandatory all day session for each student showing how to craft a proper resume, how to act/dress in professional situations, and offer a service for resume proofreading/formatting.


I'm sure Southern offers these services. It's up to the students to take advantage.
Posted by RougeDawg
Member since Jul 2016
5827 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 12:47 pm to
SU engineering grads typically can't pass the P.E. Most even have trouble with the FE. I think I know one that has a P.E.

If you want to see a real shite show, check out Grambling or Southern University at Shreveport!
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 12:56 pm to
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Southern University and Agricultural & Mechanical College is accredited by the The Southern Association of Colleges and Schools Commission on Colleges (1866 Southern Lane, Decatur, Georgia 30033-4097; Telephone number: (404) 679-4501);www.sacscoc.org; to award associate, bachelors, masters, doctoral, and professional degrees.   Southern University Law Center is a part of Southern University and Agricultural & Mechanical College.


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Posted by WildManGoose
Member since Nov 2005
4568 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 1:06 pm to
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So people are paying that much to attend Xavier or Tulane? 

Yes, both have a better reputation.
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What about schools like Louisiana College or Centenary?

The same. These are religiously affiliated, as is Xavier, so they have a different angle for recruitment.

All of them have an endowment:student ratio that destroys SUs
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 1:10 pm to
We should spin all our Louisiana colleges off as private entities TOMORROW.

There is no way the leges will ever make the decisions to close unneeded institutions and they will continue to mandate things like tuition and employee benefits ect.

We should take all the TOPS money and all the direct funding we give to these organizations and give it to students in the form of vouchers and let the school compete for the students.

We would have much better choices for students and we would no doubt lower cost over time.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11476 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 1:14 pm to
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Dumb statement.

CPA exam is in no way easy. That's why there is a 40-50% pass rate nationally. Even after putting in excess the 120 hours of studying the top study programs recommend, it is not "very very easy"

However the 20% is awful...

Louisiana as a whole is usually near the national average


It isn't a hard exam. Study materials match exam nearly exactly. Pass rate is so low because so many dumbasses go to accounting because they have to pick a major.
This post was edited on 8/19/19 at 1:19 pm
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
6504 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 1:22 pm to
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It isn't a hard exam. Study materials match exam nearly exactly. Pass rate is so low because so many dumbasses go to accounting because they have to pick a major.




I am not an accountant, but have friends who are CPAs, none of which said it was easy and all spent many, many hours studying the 4 different parts of the test. But who knows, you are prob just smarter than everyone.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 1:28 pm to
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I am not an accountant, but have friends who are CPAs, none of which said it was easy and all spent many, many hours studying the 4 different parts of the test. But who knows, you are prob just smarter than everyone.


You both are correct.

Accounting programs are still subject to the difficulty that professors provide. A good accounting program will prepare you well for the exam and incorporate materials that the exam will test you on.

But many accounting majors just end up as financial analysts.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11476 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 1:32 pm to
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I am not an accountant, but have friends who are CPAs, none of which said it was easy and all spent many, many hours studying the 4 different parts of the test. But who knows, you are prob just smarter than everyone.


What they fail to tell you is it is hard to focus on it after college. But, if you can make time to study it is a breeze (and you have an accounting degree plus business related masters)
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37034 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 1:42 pm to
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What they fail to tell you is it is hard to focus on it after college. But, if you can make time to study it is a breeze


I interviewed someone this morning for a spring internship position. Like I do with all students / recent grads I interview, I make it a point to tell them that no matter where they end up, they need to focus on passing the exam as soon as possible after they get their 150.

Yes it's a lot of work and yes you are busy, but you don't get less busy as you advance in your career.

Assuming you don't have some testing disability, if you went to a decent accounting program and spend 70-100 hours studying PER SECTION, you should be able to pass. A lot of people don't have that dedication, though.

Also, a lot of people aren't going into accounting degree because they just need to choose a major, they are going into it because groups like the AICPA have been pushing this mantra that an accounting degree will help you with any path in business you want to take. That might be true to some extent, but it's resulted in a lot of people getting accounting degrees that aren't taking the exam, or, take it once, fail, and go do something else.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11476 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 1:50 pm to
I agree with you. When someone tells me they cannot pass the CPA exam and they are not married or have kids then I know their priorities are just not there. And that is telling.

I was a little brash with my dumbasses part. But, a lot of people go into accounting for less than dedicated reasons and are even ushered there by the AICPA who desires growth at any cost. There is no Accounting Program acceptance at most places like Law School.

It is very telling that Southern's pass rate is so low. I will stand by my it isn't a hard exam that should be failed that much by accounting grads. They probably even have masters in accounting or MBAs too.
This post was edited on 8/19/19 at 1:53 pm
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
21420 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 1:55 pm to
My personal experience: I have interviewed between 25 to 30 graduates of SU for positions in my work. I would say that maybe 3 of them interviewed well enough to even be considered for the positions. The rest seemed lost. Out of the 3 that did well, only one was really even in the running but 2 other candidates outperformed. She was the 3rd choice but it didn't get that far.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37034 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 2:04 pm to
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When someone tells me they cannot pass the CPA exam and they are not married or have kids then I know their priorities are just not there. And that is telling.


Yeah. That year sucked for my personal life, but I knew I wanted to knock it out before my personal life got even more complex.

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But, a lot of people go into accounting for less than dedicated reasons and are even ushered there by the AICPA who desires growth at any cost.


To this day, I don't understand that mentality. What did the AICPA get by pushing this so damn hard? They only benefit when people take the exam (and pay dues).

I think they realized this now, which is why they are pushing so hard to create membership classes for non-CPAs.
This post was edited on 8/19/19 at 2:05 pm
Posted by MusclesofBrussels
Member since Dec 2015
4449 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 2:05 pm to
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Do employers in Louisiana dislike Southern University?


They shouldn't, can't be much worse than LSU
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11476 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 2:11 pm to
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To this day, I don't understand that mentality. What did the AICPA get by pushing this so damn hard? They only benefit when people take the exam (and pay dues).

I think they realized this now, which is why they are pushing so hard to create membership classes for non-CPAs.







They are the worst "union" of any profession. They water it down so darn much. I feel like all they talk about is Diversity, Technology and "Leadership".
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
9923 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 2:15 pm to
I agree that nothing is directed at you personally.

I honestly know some employers who would rather see a non graduate applicant than one from Southern. Some do not seem to mind. I know no one that is ape shite crazy for Southern grads though (like some businesses are for TU or LSU). If high mobility in employment is your goal, SU is a probably a bad choice.

Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71350 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 2:28 pm to
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That is pretty telling. The CPA exam should be very very easy if you have an accounting degree plus business related masters for the 150 hours. All you have to do is study for it.




Not trying to be an arse, but isn't that almost every single professional license out there? The CPA is still a set of hard tests that generally require a huge chunk of life to get.
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