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Posted on 8/19/19 at 10:53 am to LSU-MNCBABY
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It’s not a well thought of education and does not have a lot of alumni in hiring positions.
There are a lot of Southern grads in civil service positions, where the hiring decisions are based on an exam score and points, and no real human decision making occurs in the hiring decision.
Posted on 8/19/19 at 10:54 am to volod
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I noticed from past threads that posters on here tend to view Southern as an unnecessary institution. At first I believed the anger was directed at me.
it is
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But I realized on my job search that its actually pervasive amoung others as well.
crappy school with a crappy reputation.
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If employers are unhappy with the Southern University System, then why do so many people get hired to work in different utility, oil/gas, and construction companies. Maybe it's the marketing of the University that's the problem.
affirmative action. Gotta have a diverse workforce- no matter how unqualified.
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I realize that the students themselves can cause issues with employment
not unique to any college, curriculum, or group
Posted on 8/19/19 at 10:55 am to volod
Southern is a horrible school. They graduate accounting students who can barely explain the difference between debits and credits.
Posted on 8/19/19 at 10:56 am to volod
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Many HBCU and even white universities privatize when they are low on funding. I don't see why this hasn't already happened.
Because the institution has to have a reputation such that students are willing to pay 20-45K per year to attend. Or a very large endowment. Or many wealthy, influential alumni. Things that SU and Grambling don't have. That's not a knock though as there aren't any schools in LA that could pull it off.
Posted on 8/19/19 at 10:57 am to volod
quote:I dont know your history here. I went to NLU with no real career aspirations, so I do see the issues that arise from not being from a better school or a better degree. I have mucked out more money than I ever dreamed I would make (I didn't have super high aspirations)but it has all come by hard work and hustle.
This is where I really fumbled. I should have studied for the FE examination for engineering. Passing the FE alone would qualify you as an EIT and make getting internships easier.
Southern graduates should not take it as discriminatory. They should take it personally however, because it is ultimately up to the student to prepare from high school on up thru graduation.
Posted on 8/19/19 at 11:00 am to Jester
quote:if that is the problem then Southern has issues. You got schools like ULM and McNeese that have super high success rates of their graduates on CPA, Pharmacy, and Nursing....so Southern should be doing better if they are failing.
This is only true if you actually pass the exams, which has been a problem.
Posted on 8/19/19 at 11:05 am to Motorboat
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the school and admin are fricking dumbasses, so is a majority of the school body. The standards are so low
My experience with Southern grads is they are not prepared at all for the Private Sector. I think the bar is set so low for them at Southern to where they cannot fail and they think the real world is the same way. The Private Sector just doesn't have time for that shite.
ETA: Maybe at a large Corporation there is room for them to hide in the budgets or in a government position. But, in a tightly ran private business they have just stuck out as unnecessary or not competing.
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 11:09 am to volod
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This post was edited on 8/21/19 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 8/19/19 at 11:10 am to WildManGoose
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But you having gone to both Tech and SU, would you say there is a big difference in education between the two schools? What are the biggest differences?
At Tech, the curriculum is designed to challenge students. Even students with exceptionally good stats in ACT and public/private high school will be challenged. This is most prevalent in business and engineering (especially).
It is much more rigorous at Tech overall. Rigorous enough that some people switch majors even mid junior year (depending on class availability, where they are in the curriculum, etc.)
They also are not very lenient on "super seniors". If you hit the 150 hour mark and still don't have a Bachelors, you are put on a fast track to graduate as soon as possible in something ( I forgot what they called the process).
It's also a question of scale. Many Tech students in engineering are some of the brightest in the state. In contrast, SU has a mission to be a more forgiving. They take in students who probably shouldn't be in a university. It's not that all schools don't have bad apples, but at SU that's a sizable number of the student body.
Posted on 8/19/19 at 11:12 am to volod
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At Tech, the curriculum is designed to challenge students. Even students with exceptionally good stats in ACT and public/private high school will be challenged. This is most prevalent in business and engineering (especially).
It is much more rigorous at Tech overall. Rigorous enough that some people switch majors even mid junior year (depending on class availability, where they are in the curriculum, etc.)
They also are not very lenient on "super seniors". If you hit the 150 hour mark and still don't have a Bachelors, you are put on a fast track to graduate as soon as possible in something ( I forgot what they called the process).
It's also a question of scale. Many Tech students in engineering are some of the brightest in the state. In contrast, SU has a mission to be a more forgiving. They take in students who probably shouldn't be in a university. It's not that all schools don't have bad apples, but at SU that's a sizable number of the student body.
Outside of someone hiring for diversity reasons, I am confused about your original post now. You seem to already know the answer.
Posted on 8/19/19 at 11:12 am to WallsAllAroundMe
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During a meeting, the word "Collateral" came up. He asked what that meant. Now, a guy in his later 20's, with a degree in Accounting, had to ask what collateral was... would you trust a degree in accounting, from ANY school, if the person had to be explained the definition of collateral? Less than a year later, he was transferred to a different division where he didn't need to know such details.
Dude, I know what collateral is and I don't have a Business degree.
Posted on 8/19/19 at 11:13 am to volod
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Dude, I know what collateral is and I don't have a Business degree.
Well Duh, you graduated from LA Tech.
Posted on 8/19/19 at 11:14 am to volod
Put it this way, SULC is literally the worst ranked law school in the United States. It finally beat Cooley in a race to the bottom. LSU isn’t doing much better, as its rankings continue to tank too.
Posted on 8/19/19 at 11:15 am to volod
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Dude, I know what collateral is and I don't have a Business degree.
You missed his point entirely.
Posted on 8/19/19 at 11:16 am to volod
Opened this just so I could downvote.
Shame we can't downvote from the thread list based on title and who posted it
Shame we can't downvote from the thread list based on title and who posted it
Posted on 8/19/19 at 11:18 am to WildManGoose
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Because the institution has to have a reputation such that students are willing to pay 20-45K per year to attend. Or a very large endowment. Or many wealthy, influential alumni. Things that SU and Grambling don't have. That's not a knock though as there aren't any schools in LA that could pull it off.
So people are paying that much to attend Xavier or Tulane?
What about schools like Louisiana College or Centenary?
Posted on 8/19/19 at 11:19 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Shame we can't downvote from the thread list based on title
Employers shun students from worst school in worst educated state. Please explain this impossible problem.
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 11:20 am to WallsAllAroundMe
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I know of a guy who graduated in Accounting from there.
During a meeting, the word "Collateral" came up. He asked what that meant.
Posted on 8/19/19 at 11:22 am to Supermoto Tiger
At least he didn’t say “Why are we talking about a Jamie Foxx film?”
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