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re: Did Italy's lack of quality health care cause the entire world to panic?
Posted on 5/5/20 at 11:49 am to thadcastle
Posted on 5/5/20 at 11:49 am to thadcastle
No. They're all just very fat. Covid only Kills fat people.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 11:53 am to DavidTheGnome
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Italy has good healthcare
Posted on 5/5/20 at 11:54 am to Centinel
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I'm not sure. We're still two weeks behind Italy.
Won't we always be when it come to Covid?
Posted on 5/5/20 at 11:57 am to DavidTheGnome
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Italy has good healthcare
No they don’t. I know this from experience.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 11:57 am to thadcastle
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Did Italy's lack of quality health care cause the entire world to panic?
I don't know if it was the healthcare system (which isn't as good as it should be) as much as the older population combined with densely populated cities with a heavy tourist draw.
This post was edited on 5/5/20 at 11:58 am
Posted on 5/5/20 at 11:58 am to thadcastle
Didnt you hear? We passed Italy
Posted on 5/5/20 at 11:58 am to shawnlsu
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Dense population centers. Public transportation that is actually used is also another major factor, at least in the US
The number one thing affecting the spread of this is certainly "larger gatherings." That concerts, religious events/funerals, factories with crowded work spaces etc have been the source of most traced high outbreaks along with the stark contrast between SF area / NYC where the main difference was how quickly SF limited large gatherings seems to bear this out.
However, there are a lot of "theories" about Italy in this thread that seem to completely ignore the fact that UK will likely end up much worse off.
As of today the UK has passed Italy in total Covid deaths (all while the UK has much more conservative counting methods) and UK cases are rising at over a 3:1 ratio to Italy.
Why is that the case?
This post was edited on 5/5/20 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 5/5/20 at 12:01 pm to C
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This post was edited on 6/7/20 at 10:51 am
Posted on 5/5/20 at 12:02 pm to thadcastle
Spain and the UK are basically having the same experience Italy had.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 12:03 pm to wm72
Italy Averages 12 ICU beds per 100,000 people
Louisiana averages 48 ICU beds per 100,000 people
WE HAVE FOUR TIMES THE ICU BEDS PER CAPITA OF ITALY IN LITTLE OLE LOUISIANA
That is Italys problem, and why it was batshit retarded to say "We are two weeks from being Italy!!!!!"
Also, the craziest stat about ICU beds is this
Louisiana has 2,240 ICU beds for a population of 4.6 million people
New Zealand has 176 ICU beds for a population of 4.8 million people
Yall still like socialized medicine
NZ will be absolutely fricked if the virus ever truly spreads there
Louisiana averages 48 ICU beds per 100,000 people
WE HAVE FOUR TIMES THE ICU BEDS PER CAPITA OF ITALY IN LITTLE OLE LOUISIANA
That is Italys problem, and why it was batshit retarded to say "We are two weeks from being Italy!!!!!"
Also, the craziest stat about ICU beds is this
Louisiana has 2,240 ICU beds for a population of 4.6 million people
New Zealand has 176 ICU beds for a population of 4.8 million people
Yall still like socialized medicine
This post was edited on 5/5/20 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 5/5/20 at 12:04 pm to wm72
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Why is that the case?
Bad teeth?
Posted on 5/5/20 at 12:05 pm to Cosmo
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Didnt you hear? We passed Italy
We are larger and are testing more than anywhere else in the world. We are also far better prepared than Italy when it comes to ICU bed count.
This post was edited on 5/5/20 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 5/5/20 at 12:06 pm to thadcastle
At first Italy seemed like an anomaly. Everyone had their reasons why Italy was struct particularly hard, But now the other big Euro countries have all joined in with them in France, Spain, and the UK. So i no longer knows anymore.
Meanwhile Germany is doing great. I dont get it honestly, theyre the country I want to study, not necessarily Sweden
Meanwhile Germany is doing great. I dont get it honestly, theyre the country I want to study, not necessarily Sweden
Posted on 5/5/20 at 12:08 pm to QJenk
From what I understand Germany is separating dying OF covid and dying WITH covid
This post was edited on 5/5/20 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 5/5/20 at 12:18 pm to lsupride87
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From what I understand Germany is separating dying OF covid and dying WITH covid
Germany also has a really massive testing program. For whatever reason they've been able to roll out virus testing and antibodies testing at a much higher rate than pretty much anyone else.
I think Italy is getting a lot of attention because they were the first western country to start having high death rates. So all the news came out of there for a few weeks and people fixated on it. The reality is that just based on total cases it's much worse being in the NYC area than in Lombardy. Madrid was hit very badly too, and it seems like the UK is climbing steadily. Italy was noticed first though and things like "we're 2 weeks away from being Italy" are stuck in everyone's minds.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 12:27 pm to mattfromnj
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For whatever reason they've been able to roll out virus testing and antibodies testing at a much higher rate than pretty much anyone else.
They don't have nearly the amount of bureaucratic red tape we do in this country for starters.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 12:37 pm to lsupride87
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New Zealand has 176 ICU beds for a population of 4.8 million people
They have 4 more beds than my county at 4 times the population.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 12:43 pm to DavidTheGnome
Please tell me about your health care experience in Italy. I know several people that have had to go to a hospital while traveling Italy. They said it looked and felt like 1940 America. Oh, and you better have a family member to take care of you while in the hospital.
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