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re: Did Huey P Long block Alexandria from being a major metro?

Posted on 2/3/23 at 7:26 pm to
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 7:26 pm to
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Did Huey P Long block Alexandria from being a major metro?


Oh god I hope so
Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2011
21180 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 7:29 pm to
Don’t forget 167
Posted by MoneyTime
Member since Jan 2016
204 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 7:38 pm to
It is my understanding that Vicksburgs issues go back to the civil war when they refused to surrender to the union army. The town was burned to the ground. While Natchez did the opposite and quickly gave up. To this day, that is why Natchez is much nicer than Vicksburg.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
33709 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 7:39 pm to
Huey ain't the reason Bossier was chosen for Barksdale....
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 7:43 pm to
Wut.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12628 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 7:46 pm to
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The indian mounds were created from dirt used from the old nat. Huey didnt want to pay the contractors to haul it off, citing he only paid them to dig the holes.

He immediatedly consecrated them as indian mounds. It was understood at the time to be a symbolic gesture, though few knew it was a politically and econimically shrewd one.

Old BR people have always known this.

To this day people believe the three tiny piles of grown over dirt are actual indian mounds.

Indian mounds are massive. A child might have trouble getting to the top.

It's like a meme from the 1920's that has been scribed by over educated idiots as truth.

There’s a photo of one of the mounds on LSU’s website captioned 1921. Are you saying that’s fake?

I could potentially see Long dumping dirt on top of the existing mounds but I find it hard to believe that they exist entirely for that reason.
Posted by ForLSU56
Rapides Parish
Member since Feb 2015
5582 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 7:46 pm to
I seem to remember way back when I was much younger, Elec was called "The Convention Center" or "The Convention City" I guess due to the location.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
58224 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 7:47 pm to
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To this day people believe the three tiny piles of grown over dirt are actual indian mounds.
the Indians are angry at this and this is why the traffic has been bad in BR forever
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28163 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 7:48 pm to
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That makes sense. My boss actually lived in Pineville so maybe he got the story from some old timers there.




I49 was going to go 30-40 miles west of Alec. But Camile Gravel knew where the bodies were so now you have to traverse that god forsaken place.
Posted by saturday
Pronoun (Baw)
Member since Feb 2007
7774 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 7:49 pm to
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Big ships wouldn’t be going past Baton Rouge even without that bridge. The river changes a good bit above Baton Rouge.



How so? I've never seen the river above Baton Rouge
Posted by ForLSU56
Rapides Parish
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 7:49 pm to
You may find this interesting.

Article about HPL and Alexandria
Posted by BorrisMart
La
Member since Jul 2020
9021 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 7:50 pm to
I don't think Alex ever planned on being a major metro (even if it wanted to). Which when you think about it, it would make a little bit of sense being basically as close to the middle of the state as it can get. I often wonder had LSU stayed there if it would have grown more or been like Ole Miss/Auburn/Ms State, and just a big school in a small town.

Huey def ruined the 4 rivers Indian Mound City thing in Jonesville to use the dirt for the old bridge over the Black River just south of the 4 river location. Huey was something else, so nothing would surprise me.
This post was edited on 2/3/23 at 7:54 pm
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
9910 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 7:56 pm to
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Big ships wouldn’t be going past Baton Rouge even without that bridge. The river changes a good bit above Baton Rouge.



How so? I've never seen the river above Baton Rouge


As evidenced this past fall, the river is pretty shallow in may spots North of Baton Rouge
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
22832 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 7:58 pm to
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The indian mounds were created from dirt used from the old nat. Huey didnt want to pay the contractors to haul it off, citing he only paid them to dig the holes.

He immediatedly consecrated them as indian mounds. It was understood at the time to be a symbolic gesture, though few knew it was a politically and econimically shrewd one.

Old BR people have always known this.


This would be hilarious if true. But "Old BR people" probably know that they were called the Indian Mounds before Huey was governor, and the construction over there also started before he was governor.
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
22308 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 8:02 pm to
Where did i say that he was governor when they were erected? Funny you describe them as being constructed
Posted by zippyputt
Member since Jul 2005
6809 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 8:07 pm to
Long was dead in 1935. Bridge built in 1939 and finished in 1940. It could have been changed. Wives tale.

The Long bridge marks the spot where ocean-going ships can no longer travel up the Mississippi River. The navigation channel is at least 49 feet deep below the Long bridge, and often deeper than 200 feet. That is unique for a major river. While most rivers get wider, the Mississippi stays about the same width, but gets deeper. There are places in the Mississippi where the river bottom is below sea level as far inland as the border with the state of Mississippi. Above the Long bridge, the river channel is maintained at 12 feet, where it eventually drops to a 9 foot navigation channel that is maintained all the way to the Port of Minneapolis in Minnesota. The US Army Corps of Engineers would prefer to have the deep water channel extend further upriver, but a rock shelf on the river bottom just north of Baton Rouge makes it impossible to dredge the river channel.
Posted by MAXtheTIGER
Title town
Member since Dec 2006
1102 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 8:19 pm to
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Your boss is correct somewhat. Huey did reroute the road but I think it was maybe Pineville's mayor who he fell out with.

I talked to an old guy who worked for the then "Highway Commission" under Huey. He said Huey would come out to the site and make them reroute roads to make sure they went by the most houses throughout the countryside to benefit folks who had no way of getting hardly anywhere.

He said a road that could run straight from point A to point B would end up looking like a coiled snake if it helped some old farm families gain access.

If you notice a lot of LA roads seem to be crooked for no reason, there's your answer. Huey built more roads than any governor in history. The problem is, since Huey, little maintenance has been done of many of them.


This is correct. It’s why 165 runs through Alexandria, but then goes north and crosses the Red river at Fort Buhlow. Pineville’s mayor made Huey mad, and so 165 bypassed Pineville. Even the 167 crossing is south of downtown Pineville.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22628 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 8:19 pm to
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tigerpawl must have Melville blood too
Sorry. Don’t have a drop of Italian in me. However, I have driven through Melville a time or two.
Posted by Auburn80
Backwater, TN
Member since Nov 2017
9594 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 8:41 pm to
Wasn’t LSU or its original version in Alexandria prior to the Civil War?
Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
Member since Aug 2011
13482 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 8:46 pm to
Hwy 1 ran right through it at that time. Hell my uncle has kiosk at WW2 museum from that area.
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