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re: Did Burke Ramsey kill JonBenét Ramsey?
Posted on 3/9/21 at 3:30 pm to NFLU
Posted on 3/9/21 at 3:30 pm to NFLU
there was only one footprint by the basement window. and none elsewhere.
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Posted on 3/9/21 at 3:32 pm to SOSFAN
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She would have died from the head injury and her body was already showing signs of dying before she was strangled. So I can see Burke causing the head injury and most likely john doing the strangulation as a cover.
So you think she was still alive and John just said frick it and finished the job?
Posted on 3/9/21 at 3:34 pm to northshorebamaman
quote:Even in a state of possible shock. If you were asked to look around the house again and found your daughters dead body. Would you pick up her dead body and carry her upstairs?
The family and the cops waited, but no call came. Some time after the ransom call window, the cops asked the Ramsey's to check the house again for anything that was missing or out of place that they could use as evidence.
John and a friend immediately went to investigate the basement after the cops asked them to scan the house. A few minutes later, John came up the stairs carrying the body of JonBenét. He had found her in a backroom in the basement.
This post was edited on 3/9/21 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 3/9/21 at 3:36 pm to OldmanBeasley
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So you think she was still alive and John just said frick it and finished the job?
That makes me queasy to think of a dad doing that. I don't think I could do that even in some awful scenario that would save on of my sons from suffering
Posted on 3/9/21 at 3:38 pm to jchamil
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That makes me queasy to think of a dad doing that. I don't think I could do that even in some awful scenario that would save on of my sons from suffering
It makes no logical sense, just some wild conspiracy theory
Posted on 3/9/21 at 3:38 pm to PrimeTime Money
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The theory goes that Burke was eating his bowl of pineapple like he did every night
fricking weirdo.
Posted on 3/9/21 at 3:40 pm to OldmanBeasley
From my understanding, it is likely she appeared dead because the head injury was so severe. It was not a survivable injury. So yes,the garotte technically killed her, but she was already basically dead.
Posted on 3/9/21 at 3:49 pm to PhantomMenace
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PhantomMenace
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Did Burke Ramsey kill JonBenét Ramsey?
Cause of death was strangulation by ligature, I believe.
At 31 she would have looked something like my avatar.
why do you have JonBenet aged as an avatar?
And BTW: 12 years after JonBenet died her mom & dad were cleared.
LINK
Posted on 3/9/21 at 3:53 pm to OldmanBeasley
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think she was still alive and John just said frick it and finished the
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The cause of death as determined by Dr. Meyer was asphyxia due to strangulation a homicide. The results of the examination indicated to Dr. Meyer that JonBenet was alive at the time she received the blow to the head and alive at the time the ligature had been tightened around her neck, however, the blow to the head eventually could have been fatal if she had not died from the strangulation first. Dr. Meyer was not able to provide a time of death based upon the initial autopsy findings.
I think he knew that she was near death and knew if he called 911 for an ambulance that she would die and they would also lose Burke. He knew he couldn't save her so he saved the child that was still alive. JMO.
Posted on 3/9/21 at 3:57 pm to SOSFAN
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I think he knew that she was near death and knew if he called 911 for an ambulance that she would die and they would also lose Burke. He knew he couldn't save her so he saved the child that was still alive. JMO.
Neither parent was a medical professional or had a background in medicine right? It’s just seems highly unlikely they found her still alive and then quickly decided to strangle her to death.
Posted on 3/9/21 at 4:03 pm to Epic Cajun
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118k was also coincidentally the amount of his Christmas bonus.
Adjusted for inflation that's approximately $350,000.
Posted on 3/9/21 at 4:05 pm to WaydownSouth
He was 9 at the time. There would have been no recourse had he killed her. My vote is the dad.
Posted on 3/9/21 at 4:05 pm to SOSFAN
did they do a rape kit on JonBenet and DNA? they say there was sexual abuse evidence.
the clearing of the parents is weak
https://abcnews.go.com/US/da-opens-cleared-ramsey-family-jonbenets-murder/story?id=43106426
What do I know, but a kid would be stupid enough to ask for $118,000 ransom =the bonus the dad got at work.- If the parents wrote the letter why be so stupid and write 3 pages?
the clearing of the parents is weak
https://abcnews.go.com/US/da-opens-cleared-ramsey-family-jonbenets-murder/story?id=43106426
What do I know, but a kid would be stupid enough to ask for $118,000 ransom =the bonus the dad got at work.- If the parents wrote the letter why be so stupid and write 3 pages?
Posted on 3/9/21 at 4:08 pm to OldmanBeasley
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just seems highly unlikely they found her still alive and then quickly decided to strangle her to death.
I agree it's highly unlikely for most people but we don't know if he found her where he thought she was alive. The autopsy showed the head injury was probably a fatal hit. I would think a hit that hard would have knocked JonBenet out cold and its possible, with her body showing signs of dying, that her pulse was weak . Im sure the parents were in a panic.Its possible that by staging the scene they didnt realized that was what killed her.
Posted on 3/9/21 at 4:15 pm to SOSFAN
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The autopsy showed the head injury was probably a fatal hit. I would think a hit that hard would have knocked JonBenet out cold and its possible, with her body showing signs of dying, that her pulse was weak . Im sure the parents were in a panic.Its possible that by staging the scene they didnt realized that was what killed her.
Even if they thought she was dead it’s very hard to believe they quickly decided to strangle her. They had to have known that the autopsy would show the actual cause of death. Also they must have done it very quickly after discovering her. If they waited a while there most likely would have been some signs that she was alive
Posted on 3/9/21 at 4:18 pm to OldmanBeasley
https://radaronline.com/photos/jonbenet-drawings-sketch-child-abuse/
In a series for a school project called “My Time Line,” two of JonBenét’s drawings show a smiling yellow-haired child in a bright pink dress. But in another picture, one stick figure has multiple limbs and no mouth! Experts believe the mouthless character could be someone trying to silence JonBenét, with the numerous lines for legs being an indication of aggression, frustration or other anxiety pertaining to that particular person.
In another shocking self-portrait, JonBenét depicted herself wearing a T-shirt, no pants and a partially erased circular ring around her legs. “The line that encircles her bottom half could be a barrier of protection to stop anything from penetrating her,” said renowned forensic psychiatrist Dr. Carole Lieberman, adding that, more literally, the ring “could represent her panties.”
In a series for a school project called “My Time Line,” two of JonBenét’s drawings show a smiling yellow-haired child in a bright pink dress. But in another picture, one stick figure has multiple limbs and no mouth! Experts believe the mouthless character could be someone trying to silence JonBenét, with the numerous lines for legs being an indication of aggression, frustration or other anxiety pertaining to that particular person.
In another shocking self-portrait, JonBenét depicted herself wearing a T-shirt, no pants and a partially erased circular ring around her legs. “The line that encircles her bottom half could be a barrier of protection to stop anything from penetrating her,” said renowned forensic psychiatrist Dr. Carole Lieberman, adding that, more literally, the ring “could represent her panties.”
Posted on 3/9/21 at 4:20 pm to AUCE05
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My vote is the dad.
I agree - I haven’t read too much on this case but the sexual abuse leads me to think the dad is guilty or at least knew what happened
Posted on 3/9/21 at 4:20 pm to cajunangelle
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did they do a rape kit on JonBenet and DNA? they say there was sexual abuse evidence.
It showed possible past abuse. It showed a digital penetration and the hyman was torn. This was most likely done using the paint brush handle that was also used to strangle her.
A group of hand writing experts say Patsy wrote the letter. A criminal isn't writing a 3 page letter but someone that isnt a seasoned criminal may go overboard in a panic. That same someone would have to have known personal details of the $118k being John's Christmas bonus.
By the it way it was also noted that the kidnappers were supposed to call at 10am but when they didn't call John nor Patsy mentioned it nor panicked ( this was before the body was found). Now if someone had your child would you not be sitting by the phone every second and probably flip out if no call by 10? Yet the Ramseys didnt do any of this. Is it because they were in shock or because they already knew no one was calling?
Posted on 3/9/21 at 4:26 pm to AUCE05
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This post was edited on 3/14/21 at 10:34 pm
Posted on 3/9/21 at 4:29 pm to WaydownSouth
This hasn't been discussed on here several times. IMO he did it by accident and the parents covered it up.
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