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re: Did Burke Ramsey kill JonBenét Ramsey?
Posted on 3/9/21 at 6:04 am to WaydownSouth
Posted on 3/9/21 at 6:04 am to WaydownSouth
I think prosecutors know he did it, but due to the way the case was handled, and all the false leads and mishaps they had during the initial investigation they know they’d never get a conviction.
Posted on 3/9/21 at 6:07 am to WaydownSouth
It’s certainly the most plausible theory to me.
From what I remember, I think it’s likely that the mother wrote the ransom note.
And the window in which the supposed intruder entered had undisturbed spider webs in the corners of the open window, basically proving nobody went through that window.
The bowl of pineapple was only partially eaten, suggesting the kids were interrupted. And JonBenet had a piece of pineapple in her system.
The theory goes that Burke was eating his bowl of pineapple like he did every night, JonBenet came by and stole a piece of his pineapple and ate it. Burke got made and chased her around the house with a flashlight that was on the table, and hit her with it, which killed her. The parents then staged it to make it look like an intruder killed her.
From what I remember, I think it’s likely that the mother wrote the ransom note.
And the window in which the supposed intruder entered had undisturbed spider webs in the corners of the open window, basically proving nobody went through that window.
The bowl of pineapple was only partially eaten, suggesting the kids were interrupted. And JonBenet had a piece of pineapple in her system.
The theory goes that Burke was eating his bowl of pineapple like he did every night, JonBenet came by and stole a piece of his pineapple and ate it. Burke got made and chased her around the house with a flashlight that was on the table, and hit her with it, which killed her. The parents then staged it to make it look like an intruder killed her.
Posted on 3/9/21 at 6:07 am to LSUBoo
quote:do pedo rings go right?
Pedo ring gone wrong.
Posted on 3/9/21 at 6:56 am to WaydownSouth
I think it is the only explanation that makes sense. I am pretty sure he didn't do it on purpose, but he got annoyed with her and hit her on the head with the Maglite that was in the home. Patsy and John then frantically tried to cover it up. I also think they convinced Burke that an intruder came in and harmed her so he probably only has vague memories of it and doesn't think he did it. I think the DA knew it was Burke which was why he didn't prosecute the parents even though there was a grand jury indictment.
Burke had hit JonBenet previously with a golf club and had spread poop on a box of her chocolates that were found in JB's room. He obviously had some issues. John and Patsy lied about JonBenet being asleep when they got home from the party. They lied about the pineapple found in her stomach even though she had obviously eaten it after getting home. Those lies only make sense if they are protecting Burke.
Burke had hit JonBenet previously with a golf club and had spread poop on a box of her chocolates that were found in JB's room. He obviously had some issues. John and Patsy lied about JonBenet being asleep when they got home from the party. They lied about the pineapple found in her stomach even though she had obviously eaten it after getting home. Those lies only make sense if they are protecting Burke.
Posted on 3/9/21 at 7:12 am to WaydownSouth
Cause of death was strangulation by ligature, I believe.
At 31 she would have looked something like my avatar.
At 31 she would have looked something like my avatar.
Posted on 3/9/21 at 7:43 am to PrimeTime Money
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Burke got made and chased her around the house with a flashlight that was on the table, and hit her with it,
I don't think he chased her anywhere I think she snatched the pinnapple out of the bowl and he nailed her in the head right there. The Bonita papers I posted a link to has this as the way it happen.
Posted on 3/9/21 at 7:51 am to SOSFAN
I think what is telling is how fast the Ramseys would turn on their friends. Fleece White was one of the inner circle but when he got into an argument, it was bad enough the police were called, with Johns brother over the Ramseys letting their attorneys block the police from talking to them they threw him out and John then tells the police that White is who he suspects for being the killer.
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Posted on 3/9/21 at 8:02 am to PhantomMenace
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Cause of death was strangulation by ligature, I believe.
At 31 she would have looked something like my avatar.
I remember some investigators on tv saying the son would not have been strong enough to do this. The killer had a stick that he had to tighten enough for a strangulation to occur and it would take a lot of force. JBR was also alive when she was being strangled because her finger nail marks were on her own neck because she was trying to loosen the ligature.
Posted on 3/9/21 at 8:08 am to TomBuchanan
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I wouldn't doubt his parents (only John now) plan every single moment of his life trying to keep him from losing his mind.
If he did it, I don’t believe he’ll be able to live the rest of his life without saying something about it unless he’s devoid of conscience. Maybe his parents got all the talking done privately.
Posted on 3/9/21 at 8:09 am to PrimeTime Money
quote:This is what makes the most sense.
The theory goes that Burke was eating his bowl of pineapple like he did every night, JonBenet came by and stole a piece of his pineapple and ate it. Burke got made and chased her around the house with a flashlight that was on the table, and hit her with it, which killed her. The parents then staged it to make it look like an intruder killed her.
Posted on 3/9/21 at 8:50 am to bamapoet
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killer had a stick that he had to tighten enough for a strangulation to occur and it would
She would have died from the head injury and her body was already showing signs of dying before she was strangled. So I can see Burke causing the head injury and most likely john doing the strangulation as a cover.
The enhanced 911 showed the Ramseys lied about that night.
Posted on 3/9/21 at 9:02 am to SOSFAN
The Grand Jury voted to charge the parents, DA decided not to, GJ would have seen ALL the evidence that none of us have...seems like they would know...DA was shady all along...MY $ on Mom, she was a beauty queen head case all her life, lost temper accidently killed JB for wetting the bed, Dad helped cover it up,
Posted on 3/9/21 at 9:11 am to secfballfan
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temper accidently killed JB for wetting the bed,
The reason I don't agree with this is both JonBenet and Burke were bed wetters. It had happened so much that they were used to it. There isn't any past history of Patsy going off but there is past history of Burke losing his temper and physically striking out at his sister.
Posted on 3/9/21 at 9:17 am to moontigr
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Did Burke Ramsey kill JonBenét Ramsey?
Either that or she died of old age.
Posted on 3/9/21 at 9:38 am to secfballfan
I disagree with this because John wouldn't have protected Patsy, and Patsy wouldn't have protected John. They both, however, would have lied to protect Burke.
I have known women like Patsy. They are crazy, but not evil or violent. The Ramsey house was messy and chaotic and Patsy was totally fine with it. If she were a neat freak, I could see her snapping, but she wasn't. She pretty much let those kids do whatever they wanted. Her going crazy on Christmas because JonBenet wet the bed would be completely out of character. Plus,there is no way John would have lied and covered up for Patsy. He was cheating on her and didn't seem to like her that much. This would have been a great way for him to get rid of her without looking like a jackass for divorcing a woman who just went through a cancer battle.
I have known women like Patsy. They are crazy, but not evil or violent. The Ramsey house was messy and chaotic and Patsy was totally fine with it. If she were a neat freak, I could see her snapping, but she wasn't. She pretty much let those kids do whatever they wanted. Her going crazy on Christmas because JonBenet wet the bed would be completely out of character. Plus,there is no way John would have lied and covered up for Patsy. He was cheating on her and didn't seem to like her that much. This would have been a great way for him to get rid of her without looking like a jackass for divorcing a woman who just went through a cancer battle.
Posted on 3/9/21 at 2:23 pm to SpaceCamp
1000% Burke did it and was a cover up. Something of rage when the kids were eating the pineapple and bashed her with the flashlight that somehow turned up with zero fingerprints.
What I always found mind blowing was how botched the investigation was. Friends and family members walking in and out of the house even after the body was found. 2 people moved the body, tampering the investigation from the start. Bunch of idiots.
What I always found mind blowing was how botched the investigation was. Friends and family members walking in and out of the house even after the body was found. 2 people moved the body, tampering the investigation from the start. Bunch of idiots.
Posted on 3/9/21 at 2:44 pm to moontigr
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I think prosecutors know he did it, but due to the way the case was handled, and all the false leads and mishaps they had during the initial investigation they know they’d never get a conviction.
Burke was 9 at the time, and the minimum age for criminal responsibility in Colorado is 10. It may have been lower in 1996, but if not they couldn't have obtained a conviction of any kind because they couldn't have even charged him with a crime in the first place.
Posted on 3/9/21 at 2:49 pm to SOSFAN
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She would have died from the head injury and her body was already showing signs of dying before she was strangled. So I can see Burke causing the head injury and most likely john doing the strangulation as a cover.
This is what I believe happened.
Posted on 3/9/21 at 2:51 pm to northshorebamaman
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do pedo rings go right?

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