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re: Deputies arrest 4 in LSU student Madison Brooks case

Posted on 1/30/23 at 2:20 pm to
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 2:20 pm to
Her being dead likely made this a case to begin with. That’s not a new opinion or a radical one. Her death set the investigation in motion. But we can’t say for certain that she wouldn’t have gone to the police either. We will never know. Her death is also benefitting the defense because now we can’t talk to Miss Brooks about what she remembers (or more importantly doesn’t remember).
Posted by HodsonTiger13
Member since Jan 2023
737 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 2:21 pm to
He's not saying 'unreported date rape' but that's what he means. Let's be honest.

"Drunk chicks sleep around and then don't complain next day when they sober up. We're only here because this drunk chick got run over."

What else did he mean but that?

Sorry if my analysis is harsh but cutting through some nonsense here.

He also said it because some 'reporter' set up Joe Long with the question.

We need to send a TD team there next hearing and grill them with some real questions because they got nothing but softballs.



Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 2:22 pm to
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Nak is telling us whites say 'rape guilty horrible' blacks say 'she wanted it, whore, F her."


He said no such thing. Not remotely.

Haley says that the driver will say that she said . . .

(do you already see the problem with this?)

she wanted sex and mocked him.

Don’t put words in people’s mouths, baw.
Posted by Beef Tips
Member since Jan 2013
2894 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 2:23 pm to
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What? I seriously doubt the defense was accusing his own client of date rape. He meant his clients did not commit a crime, and if she had lived, she wouldn't have complained because she gave consent.


This. Hodson is well intentioned but gets real animated with some of his takes.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70152 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 2:24 pm to
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Because I don’t subscribe to the woke idea that there is no difference in the sexes.


neither do I

quote:

This is one of the major frick ups of the disaster #metoo movement. It has poisoned that once noble well.


False rape allegations for a myriad of reasons whether it be he didn't call me back, he broke up with me, he used me etc without serious consequences for women have probably done more damage.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 2:24 pm to
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"Drunk chicks sleep around and then don't complain next day when they sober up. We're only here because this drunk chick got run over."


Bingo.

Lawyer is a fricking dumbass
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 2:24 pm to
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That's going to come back to bite him. Who in their right mind thinks this is what you say?


It’s bold for sure.

It does make me wonder if they are sitting on some hole cards.
Posted by inspectweld
Member since Feb 2021
665 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 2:25 pm to
LP is now likely working on getting even more of the serial rapist victims cases together. From what the victim said, a few of her friends were also raped by Washington. It`ll be good to get a few more nails in his coffin.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 2:25 pm to
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What? I seriously doubt the defense was accusing his own client of date rape.


He needs better PR people to edit his statements then.

Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
23944 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 2:25 pm to
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I would suggest she might have needed to be held down in order to accomplish this if she was in any state of conscience.



Not to mention there's a good reason alot of people don't have completely spontaneous anal sex. Sometimes you end up with quite a "mess", for the lack of a better term, if the female is not fully prepared for it.
Posted by T
Member since Jan 2004
9889 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 2:26 pm to
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You don't tend to hear of a lot of female on male rape cases


You hear all the time about guys being shitfaced and leaving a bar with some ugly girl. I’d imagine 9 times out of 10, the guy was way drunker than the girl. If a guy reports that as rape, do you think anybody would believe him? Other way around and the guy is going to jail.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10827 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 2:28 pm to
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Drunks are targets for robbery as well. Happens all the time in the Quarter. You pass out, don't expect to wake up with a wallet.


Predators posing as Uber or other ride share service target drunks outside of bars.
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1933 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 2:29 pm to
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What else did he mean but that?


I was only responding to the first part where you said he meant that it would be an unreported date rape. Pretty awful defense attorney to say it's only date rape (and not "real" rape) if she didn't die.

I took it to mean that she would never have complained because she was fine with it.

Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 2:29 pm to
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Sometimes you end up with quite a "mess", for the lack of a better term, if the female is not fully prepared for it.


No sh . . . Never mind.

I’ve thought about this but did not want to bring it up. Joe Rogan has made some pretty blunt comments on this point.

Relatedly, if the sex was violent, there will be blood. I wonder if they’ve tested the car.

It would be hard to argue she consented to that kind of sex.

I’ve refrained from discussing this because it is distasteful. But it might matter.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 2:31 pm to
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No sh . . . Never mind.

I’ve thought about this but did not want to bring it up. Joe Rogan has made some pretty blunt comments on this point.

Relatedly, if the sex was violent, there will be blood. I wonder if they’ve tested the car.

It would be hard to argue she consented to that kind of sex.

I’ve refrained from discussing this because it is distasteful. But it might matter.




All this. It would definitely come up in trial, but really don't need to get into details here.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 2:31 pm to
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You hear all the time about guys being shitfaced and leaving a bar with some ugly girl. I’d imagine 9 times out of 10, the guy was way drunker than the girl. If a guy reports that as rape, do you think anybody would believe him? Other way around and the guy is going to jail.


I think of a guy is that drunk, he is not going to have the physical capacity for sex. He could still be assaulted though, I guess. And not many people would believe him.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88152 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 2:31 pm to
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I took it to mean that she would never have complained because she was fine with it.
He’s not taking some new stance. Their defense is that she consented…. Or “fine with it.”
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
46889 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 2:32 pm to
And that is one reason I believe the sex video conveniently “doesn’t exist”

So the anal sex video “doesn’t exist” and this also happens to be when Casen says he told Washington to stop……uh huh….mighty convenient that recorder button was only on before and after
This post was edited on 1/30/23 at 3:02 pm
Posted by Beef Tips
Member since Jan 2013
2894 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 2:33 pm to
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No sh . . . Never mind.

I’ve thought about this but did not want to bring it up. Joe Rogan has made some pretty blunt comments on this point.

Relatedly, if the sex was violent, there will be blood. I wonder if they’ve tested the car.

It would be hard to argue she consented to that kind of sex.

I’ve refrained from discussing this because it is distasteful. But it might matter.


i recall you touching the subject lightly but you are right. this is a critical piece for the prosecution. completely defies what even the kinkiest among us accept as a realistic scenario.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23242 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 2:33 pm to
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I’ve refrained from discussing this because it is distasteful. But it might matter


I think you mentioned earlier today that the "injuries" might come into play, and that's what I figured you meant. A drunk girls butt, excuse the crudeness of it, isn't exactly conducive to spontaneous sex. Especially if that wasn't a regular thing for her. I believe a report came out saying the findings were consistent with sexual assault, right?
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