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re: Deputies arrest 4 in LSU student Madison Brooks case
Posted on 1/27/23 at 11:52 am to tigerskin
Posted on 1/27/23 at 11:52 am to tigerskin
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The Walker DA needs to go after the previous charges and new folks willing to go forward with previous rape allegations against Kaivon. Like now
This. LP jury will get his arse.
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 11:56 am to MMauler
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The vast, vast, vast majority of people on this board would never have thought that she was capable of running after them before they saw that video yesterday. I think everyone on this board thought that they found this girl sitting on her bench outside of Reggies, and essentially dragged her to the car with the specific intent of gang raping her.
Well, that illusion has been completely thrown out the f*cking window.
Are you forgetting that even if she verbally said "Yes I want to have sex" on camera, a crime still occurred due to her BAC?
Posted on 1/27/23 at 11:57 am to TutHillTiger
Former Sport's doorman here. I worked there in the late 80s to 1990. I can tell you, you are spot on. No one who got in trouble EVER got drunk at our establishment....and Billy always had his lawyer (Reggie) available to back them up along with Foxy Sanders on speed dial.
I saw some crazy shite when it came to alcohol tolerance especially among females. I remember one time a girl we were familiar with "disappeared" after a night out drinking. One of us had seen her and was talking to her right before closing. We found her about a hour later passed out in the bathroom by the sink. Unfrickingresponsive like water in the face and not moving unresponsive.....JL at the time was " just get her out of here" I remember asking him " where the frick are we gonna put her.....she's really fricked up."
Me and another door guy got her in the car and got her to the Lake where she was near .40.....just under. She was drunk but functional just an hour before we found her. From what I understand Billy had to go to his Dad for some money to buy her parents off.
I had worked there for 2.5 years. After that I was out.....graduating anyway but their response has always disturbed me.
I saw some crazy shite when it came to alcohol tolerance especially among females. I remember one time a girl we were familiar with "disappeared" after a night out drinking. One of us had seen her and was talking to her right before closing. We found her about a hour later passed out in the bathroom by the sink. Unfrickingresponsive like water in the face and not moving unresponsive.....JL at the time was " just get her out of here" I remember asking him " where the frick are we gonna put her.....she's really fricked up."
Me and another door guy got her in the car and got her to the Lake where she was near .40.....just under. She was drunk but functional just an hour before we found her. From what I understand Billy had to go to his Dad for some money to buy her parents off.
I had worked there for 2.5 years. After that I was out.....graduating anyway but their response has always disturbed me.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 11:59 am to LNCHBOX
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They literally were not, but whatever makes you feel better.
How are you going to tell other posters what comments they were referring to in this thread? The one i quoted is exactly the kind of comments I was referring to. And as you can see, I didn’t leave anything out.
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Keep jumping around though.
Now this is rich!
Posted on 1/27/23 at 12:01 pm to MMauler
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Yeah, and just like O.J., they're going to be looking to get on this jury.
People – this is plain common f*cking sense. You are literally a f*cking FOOL if don’t realize that this is how it’s going play out.
I’m not talking about what's “right“ legally. At least half of this jury will be black. Prosecutors will essentially be handcuffed in that they will not be able to use their peremptory challenges to get rid of any black juror - no matter how biased they may think he/she is.
No.
You don't get a summons for a particular trial. You get it for a date. You don't know which trial you are being called in. Then you go into a pool for all jury trials that day.
Prosecutors are not "handcuffed" on peremptory strikes. The defense can raise a Batson challenge to a strike by making an initial showing that it is racially motivated. The prosecution then has to state a neutral reason for the challenge. If the prosecutors have done any kind of decent voir dire at all, that is not much a a hurdle.
Now this next part is going to piss you off. You made some absolute and borderline hysterical statements about something you seem to know very little about. Why do you feel you have to stir this shite up?
This post was edited on 1/27/23 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 1/27/23 at 12:02 pm to MMauler
ETA: Nvm, disregard my thought…I just googled…age of consent in LA is 17
This post was edited on 1/27/23 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 1/27/23 at 12:04 pm to jdd48
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Are you forgetting that even if she verbally said "Yes I want to have sex" on camera, a crime still occurred due to her BAC?
Jesus, I’m not talking about that. I’ve stated that she was unable to consent.
I’m talking about how a black jury is going to view this. They're going to see this drunken almost 20-year-old college blond sorority girl chasing after the 17-year-old high school black KID with the BBC that she wanted from the time she was grinding on him on the dance floor at Reggies.
They’re not going to give a f*ck that according to the law this 17-year-old poor black HIGH SCHOOL KID should have realized she was drunk, understood exactly what the law provided, and driven her home without incident - despite the fact that she was hanging all over him and kissing him in Reggies, and then chased him out the bar. That’s the way they are going to see it. The video will give them every excuse to view her as the aggressor.
Again, the video in the car could change it all. However, I’ve got to believe that she wasn’t doing too much resisting with the 17-year-old in the car or the attorney would never have turned it over.
It might be a totally different case for the 18-year-old. The video in the car will make that determination.
This post was edited on 1/27/23 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 1/27/23 at 12:04 pm to JPLSU1981
No.
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§80. Felony carnal knowledge of a juvenile
A. Felony carnal knowledge of a juvenile is committed when:
(1) A person who is seventeen years of age or older has sexual intercourse, with consent, with a person who is thirteen years of age or older but less than seventeen years of age, when the victim is not the spouse of the offender and when the difference between the age of the victim and the age of the offender is four years or greater
Posted on 1/27/23 at 12:04 pm to JPLSU1981
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I’m not as up to speed on the details of this case as you guys, but you mentioned a 17yo… Can he (a 17yo) even consent?… thinking out loud here, but did she commit statutory rape against him?
I was wondering this as well. It can definitely get muddled bc as many in here have said, being drunk isn’t a defense when you commit a crime.
I’m sure any good criminal defense atty will go there.
This post was edited on 1/27/23 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 1/27/23 at 12:05 pm to LSUAngelHere1
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I said people were saying that she was the one kissing and hugging him and was immediately accused of victim blaming and defending rapists.
Hmm. Maybe it is because you are victim blaming and defending rapists. That is not a good look.
You’re probably the type of person that tells people “I’m not a racist, I have a black friend,” and then ends up dropping flaming crosses in a yard under the cover of moonlight and the courage or meth.
This post was edited on 1/27/23 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 1/27/23 at 12:06 pm to JudgeHolden
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You made some absolute and borderline hysterical statements about something you seem to know very little about
Yea I'm kinda curious who in here has actual knowledge about law and who is just spouting off bullshite.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 12:06 pm to MMauler
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They’re not going to give a f*ck that according to the law this 17-year-old poor black HIGH SCHOOL KID old should realized she was drunk, understood exactly what the law provided, and driven her home without incident. The video will give them every excuse to view her as the aggressor.
You tried a lot of jury trials, have you?
Posted on 1/27/23 at 12:08 pm to Spasweezy
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Hmm. Maybe it is because you are victim blaming and defending rapists. That is not a good look. You’re probably the type of person that tells people “I’m not a racist, I have a black friend” and then ends up dropping flaming crosses in a yard under the cover of moonlight and the courage or meth.
Whatever makes you feel better man. Sticking to the facts isn’t victim blaming. Y’all all know that everyone agrees she was raped but people have lost their minds in this thread.
As for race, I’m not the one saying “this girl would never willingly leave with 3 black guys!”
This post was edited on 1/27/23 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 1/27/23 at 12:08 pm to Deactived
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Yea I'm kinda curious who in here has actual knowledge about law and who is just spouting off bullshite.
Well, I can only definitively classify two posters, me and the guy who made that post.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 12:09 pm to LNCHBOX
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Exactly. Some people seem to think being blackout drunk means you're effectively a corpse that needs the weekend at bernies treatment to get anywhere.
I once cooked an entire crawfish ettoufee, with rice, during a blackout.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 12:09 pm to JDPndahizzy
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I once cooked an entire crawfish ettoufee, with rice, during a blackout.
Recipe? How did it come out?
Posted on 1/27/23 at 12:10 pm to JudgeHolden
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You tried a lot of jury trials, have you?
No, but I do have plain common f*cking sense.
This isn’t going to be a regular trial. This has already become a public racial spectacle. That changes everything in today’s world.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 12:11 pm to MMauler
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She didn’t just ask them for a ride, i.e., something that can just be explained away. She went running after them.
Your responses in this thread are weird af
Can you explain why you know she went “running after them looking for a BBC”
Instead of running after them thinking “oh shite all of my fiends left and I need a ride home”, since that’s exactly what the suspects themselves said she said.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 12:12 pm to MMauler
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No, but I do have plain common f*cking sense.
Well, let's sign you up for the bar exam, then.
Look, you don't know what you are talking about, legally speaking. And if you could really tell what a jury is going to do, well, I'd be paying you as much as I pay my jury consultants.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 12:12 pm to LSUAngelHere1
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Sticking to the facts isn’t victim blaming
Your facts come via the Walker High PTA
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