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re: Deputies arrest 4 in LSU student Madison Brooks case

Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:29 am to
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:29 am to
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I mean yeh, but he isn’t doing that


Yes y’all are. Come out and say very clear what you want based upon these videos. Y’all are trying to act vindicated but there is zero vindication w these videos.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:30 am to
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The story was always she willingly left with them for a ride home and pretty early we knew about her being flirty or whatever w the 17 yr old. Your agenda is becoming clear.
I have no idea why people are literally afraid to say the video isn’t what they were expecting

It changes NOTHING in terms of their guilt, but it’s just not what we were expecting

I was expecting them to approach her, not the other way around. And anyone being honest expected the same
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:30 am to
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Am I the only one who thinks the video doesn’t really change the situation?


Only morons, guys who have taken advantage of girls in the past and feel guilty, and black racists think the video matters
Posted by tritiger
Member since Apr 2006
1436 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:33 am to
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HodsonTiger13


Zero percent chance this person is a regular TD user. Look at the writing style, at the peculiar use of adverbs atypical to the standard TD meathead. This is definitely someone who joined this board for the explicit purpose of talking about this tragedy.

Also curiously fond of The Daily Mail.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:34 am to
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Yes y’all are. Come out and say very clear what you want based upon these videos. Y’all are trying to act vindicated but there is zero vindication w these videos.


Dude I literally said I still think they probably raped her. I am saying that there were people in this thread that believed that there was no way that she willingly left with them, those videos prove that to be wrong. That's it. That is the only thing those videos prove. Yes they still could have raped her after they left. They are pieces of trash. Does that make sense?
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:35 am to
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I was expecting them to approach her, not the other way around.


the outside video wasn't the "first approach". There is no vindication of anything in these videos.

Posted by SMD
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:36 am to
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Only morons, guys who have taken advantage of girls in the past and feel guilty, and black racists think the video matters


Yep. Lsupride checks all boxes.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:38 am to
Does anyone think if they happened to be accused of this crime there would be people calling in to say you raped them and that you have two previous rape attempts?

I think this is only the tip of the iceberg for Kaivon and when we get to trial we are going to hear a lot about his past, my guess is that it isn’t going to be good. Anyone even remotely seeming to be making a defense for them could look like a complete idiot in hindsight.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:38 am to
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the outside video wasn't the "first approach". There is no vindication of anything in these videos.
I didn’t expect at all, at any point in time, to see the criminals leaving, only to be pursued and followed by Brooks. That caught me completely off guard

There is no way anyone being honest wasn’t surprised by that part of the video
This post was edited on 1/27/23 at 10:39 am
Posted by Bubb
Member since Mar 2010
4304 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:38 am to
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When I was at LSU this wouldn't have been a viable option.

The BRPD/ATC make too much money off the supremely fricked up for anyone to risk doing that in my day.

Hell I've seen people actively vomiting at football games and in Tigerland and the responding officers slap cuffs, write a ticket, and make sure you don't vomit in yourself until someone coherent comes along to pick you up.

I'm not trying to justify it, nor am I trying to spew the ACAB bullshite, but I speculate there's incredibly few folks in Tigerland would consider bringing a random drunk chick to the cops because realistically it would blow back on the random drunk chick.


This needs to be a safe option, similar to surrendering a baby to a fire station. It would save lives.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
19276 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:38 am to
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the outside video wasn't the "first approach". There is no vindication of anything in these videos.


We're not saying that this proves them innocent or that this was the first approach. Yes, they probably met her inside the bar, which should be on video as well.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
56476 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:39 am to
Reggie's has a pretty bad reputation and my kid avoids tigerland for the most part unless he's with a big group or going to an event like when they have a dj event at fred's

my kid prefers bogies and the rev over tigerland
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:40 am to
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That is the only thing those videos prove. Yes they still could have raped her after they left.


There is no could have. The fact that her BAC was .319, post mortem, meets the legal standard for alcohol poisoning, and past the point of being able to consent.

The facts say someone had sex with her when she was unable to consent to it. That is rape. not possibly, or could be. That is rape.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111743 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:43 am to
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The fact that her BAC was .319,
You don’t even need her BAC here

The fact carver says he “hated the entire ordeal” due to how drunk she was, and Washington saying he knew she was “drunk, like really drunk”, is plenty enough to prove 3rd degree rape

I would hammer that more to a jury than a bac. It’s easier to digest for the normal person
This post was edited on 1/27/23 at 10:44 am
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
10137 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:43 am to
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Yes y’all are. Come out and say very clear what you want based upon these videos. Y’all are trying to act vindicated but there is zero vindication w these videos.

People are trying to rewrite history. Posters were saying she wouldn’t give these losers the time of day and that they saw a very drunk girl sitting outside alone and these predators approached her then coerced into their vehicle. I said people were saying that she was the one kissing and hugging him and was immediately accused of victim blaming and defending rapists. I even said I believed she was raped but several posters were instantly dismissed if they went against the narrative.

That narrative was wrong & it’s not about anyone being vindicated but people have lost their collective minds in this thread.
This post was edited on 1/27/23 at 10:49 am
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:45 am to
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We're not saying that this proves them innocent or that this was the first approach.


I don't know who you think you are proving right of those who said black guys dragged out an unconscious girl out the bar but go find them specifically. Until then, this self rightousness of being proven correct about anything is bullshite. She was drunk as frick running out the bar. Her being drunk has been stated by the rapers and proven on the videos they have. There is no middle ground about what they did.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:46 am to
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There is no way anyone being honest wasn’t surprised by that part of the video


It's hard to square up .32 less than a couple hours later with the limited amount we see in the video.

.32 is in and out of consciousness level, not in and out of coherence.

We know (?)-she was raped and dumped within 20 or so mins of the video. So it's highly unlikely she consumed much, if any alcohol between the video and the hospital.

Just surprising
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111743 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:47 am to
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It's hard to square up .32 less than a couple hours later with the limited amount we see in the video. .32 is in and out of consciousness level, not in and out of coherence. We know (?)-she was raped and dumped within 20 or so mins of the video. So it's highly unlikely she consumed much, if any alcohol between the video and the hospital. Just surprising
Yep
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
123647 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:47 am to
It really is irrelevant in light of the end of the video, BAC, and the statements. What are you even getting at?

This post was edited on 1/27/23 at 10:48 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:47 am to
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Posters were saying she wouldn’t give these losers the time of day


Why do yall keep leaving out the without being blackout part of those statements?

Further, what relevance does it have to do with anything? I get you're taking up for your bay here, but what do you think that video helps?

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That narrative was wrong & it’s not about anyone being vindicated but people have lost their collective minds in this thread.



That is quite a take coming from you
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