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re: Deputies arrest 4 in LSU student Madison Brooks case

Posted on 1/25/23 at 12:12 pm to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/25/23 at 12:12 pm to
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People's statements are evidence. Judges and juries are tasked with assessing the veracity of evidence. There's no obfuscatory hand-waving you can do that will make that not true.



Explain to me how past sexual encounters have anything to do with whether or not a rape occurred.
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 12:13 pm to
Yeah, my opinion about that law is probably not relevant to this particular case. I just think it's an awful law.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23236 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 12:14 pm to
How else would you write that law?
This post was edited on 1/25/23 at 12:15 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 1/25/23 at 12:14 pm to
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I just think it's an awful law.


Why though? There is no logical reason for someone's past to have any relevance to whether a rape occurred.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38118 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 12:14 pm to
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If there is any question of fact around consent,


but what if she can't consent- as alleged in this case?
Posted by YeahYeah
Member since Jun 2016
2248 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 12:14 pm to
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Beyond that, I am sorry but a victim's past sexual conduct seems extremely relevant to a rape case

You can be the biggest whore west of the Mississippi River but that doesn’t matter in a rape case.

Playing the “she’s a whore, so she definitely wanted it,” isn’t the best defense.

This isn’t Opposite Day in elementary school where no means yes
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85857 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 12:17 pm to
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People's statements are evidence.


Only if they’re allowed into evidence.

quote:

Judges


Will decide what is allowed into evidence based on the Code of Evidence.

You should read article 412 of the Code of Evidence
Posted by Beef Tips
Member since Jan 2013
2894 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 12:23 pm to
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Oh look, the race baiter dickweed lawyer was dead wrong and made it even worse for these thugs.


Epic miscalculation. In fact, since the men are seen "callously laughing" on the video, it will nullify any defense claim of "Oh but I was drunk too". They knew exactly what they were doing.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40492 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 12:26 pm to
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Epic miscalculation. In fact, since the men are seen "callously laughing" on the video, it will nullify any defense claim of "Oh but I was drunk too". They knew exactly what they were doing.

Posted by LongueCarabine
Pointe Aux Pins, LA
Member since Jan 2011
8205 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 12:26 pm to
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weak sauce lnchbox. my posts have repeatedly have been asking and wanting to know this answer. I've also been told this is a stretch of highway that is very common to speed through being a stretch of nothingness.


You working on your Junior Investigator badge or something?
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 12:27 pm to
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USMEagles


It's incredible how you take the idiot standpoint in every thread.

Unless you are, in fact, an idiot 24/7.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
123625 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 12:46 pm to
Wonder what sixth and barone’s beer buddy will do next?!

Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 12:46 pm to
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Really makes you scared if your fate ever came down to a jury.


Most people who try a lot of jury trials would tell you they would always ask for a jury if accused of a crime.
Posted by HodsonTiger13
Member since Jan 2023
737 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 12:54 pm to
I'd imagine there are warrants for the 'Cloud' and an examination of the phones in the vehicle.

The perps didn't record any of the actual rape/sex act? Find that difficult to believe. They likely recorded and then deleted it but it'd still be found.

Two of the defendants have bonded out per WAFB.
Posted by Mr Clean
Power I-Formation
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 1/25/23 at 12:54 pm to
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sixth and barone’s


Posted by redstickrick
Laffy, La
Member since May 2019
474 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 12:54 pm to
With this increased charge will the jury be able to consider lesser charges if it finds 1st degree level of evidence was not met?
Posted by Beef Tips
Member since Jan 2013
2894 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 12:57 pm to
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The perps didn't record any of the actual rape/sex act? Find that difficult to believe


ZERO % chance they didn't record the sex and share at least amongst themselves.
Posted by IndianInBR
L'auberge
Member since Dec 2015
3272 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 12:58 pm to
The latest news article says they recorded a video. Probably circulating asking the walker high kids right now!
Posted by HodsonTiger13
Member since Jan 2023
737 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 1:02 pm to
Two have bonded out:

BATON ROUGE, La. (WAFB) - Two of the men accused of participating in or witnessing a sexual encounter involving an LSU student before her death bonded out of prison, according to records from the East Baton Rouge Parish Sheriff’s Office.

Everett Lee, 28, and Casen Carver, 18, bonded out of jail on Tuesday, Jan. 24, according to their attorneys.

The men appeared before 19th Judicial District Judge Brad Myers earlier that day to determine their pre-trial bond amounts.

Lee’s bond was set at $75,000, and Carver’s bond was set at $50,000, records show.

LINK
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66950 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 1:02 pm to
Just curious, were any charges ever filed against whomever was driving the vehicle that hit Madison?
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