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re: Depression- PAGING TheWalrus- how have you overcome it?
Posted on 6/23/21 at 9:36 pm to LSU Coyote
Posted on 6/23/21 at 9:36 pm to LSU Coyote
quote:Hey Soul Sister
And train
Ain’t that Mister Mister on the radio?
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Posted on 6/23/21 at 9:53 pm to doc baklava
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transcranial dirext current.
Ive read about this. What was it like?
Posted on 6/23/21 at 10:01 pm to wasteland
Vitamins, Exercise, and Keeping Mentally Active. I’ve got everything going for me in life short of some medical issues and missing out on being to be a professional pilot. It gets at me frequently. I find the best way to circumvent that darkness is to just not get bored. You have to trudge ahead even when life seems pointless. We only get to live it once so make the most of whatever scenario you have on your plate.
Posted on 6/23/21 at 10:03 pm to wasteland
Eat well. Drink well. Get laid. Repeat.
No pill will fix anything
No pill will fix anything
Posted on 6/23/21 at 10:19 pm to wasteland
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I’m not doing well.
Therapy!!
Don't know your $$$ situation, but its never been easier to talk to a therapist. Zoom etc type therapy.
Reach out to loved ones to let them know you are struggling.
A good friend of mine blew his head off this year. I WISH he would have called. Reach out.
Posted on 6/23/21 at 10:20 pm to wasteland
Discourse.
I don't think depression ever leaves; you just have manage it the best you can. You're doing good you'll mostly be ok but it doesn't mean it will go away on it's own. I'm a huge believer of SSRI's. Prozac did so much for me a therapist could ever do.
I don't think depression ever leaves; you just have manage it the best you can. You're doing good you'll mostly be ok but it doesn't mean it will go away on it's own. I'm a huge believer of SSRI's. Prozac did so much for me a therapist could ever do.
Posted on 6/23/21 at 10:28 pm to wasteland
I haven’t, I pray to die every day but I’m scared to hurt myself and can’t do it to my parents. Every day is fricking torture. Been on every medication under the sun, take about 6 now, nothing helps.
This post was edited on 6/23/21 at 10:29 pm
Posted on 6/23/21 at 10:36 pm to wasteland
Try doing a few Ketamine infusion treatments. My buddy owns a few clinics and he works wonders for people who have failed traditional treatments.
Posted on 6/23/21 at 11:00 pm to wasteland
Do your best to see a doctor who specializes in functional medicine and have them do a full hormonal work up to include vitamins and minerals. Hormonal imbalances can be awful for one's mental state.
And, as others have said:
- exercise (if just for fresh air)
- reduce negativity (turn off the news and FB/IG)
- socialize (even if this means going to church, sitting in a coffee shop, just be around people)
- eat well
- get enough sleep
- pray and meditate
Good luck to you!
And, as others have said:
- exercise (if just for fresh air)
- reduce negativity (turn off the news and FB/IG)
- socialize (even if this means going to church, sitting in a coffee shop, just be around people)
- eat well
- get enough sleep
- pray and meditate
Good luck to you!
Posted on 6/24/21 at 12:01 am to wasteland
I haven’t. Meds have helped some but I still battle it. One thing that helps me if I even ponder ending things is that I am still terrified to die. Second, As I have gotten older and looked back on all the adversity in my life, I realize things have worked out pretty well, when back in the darkest of times it didn’t seem like there was any hope.
Watch and listen to a bunch of comedy shows, specials, podcasts. Laughing always helps. For me any way.
Watch and listen to a bunch of comedy shows, specials, podcasts. Laughing always helps. For me any way.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 12:03 am to coondaddy21
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Try doing a few Ketamine infusion treatments. My buddy owns a few clinics and he works wonders for people who have failed traditional treatments.
Sounds nuts but it has been shown to work. If it were me I would still think of it as a last-ditch effort but I am personally one that likes to save meds for last but that is just a personal issue.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 12:46 am to wasteland
A lot of good recommendations in this thread for good self care. Depression (as with many psychological problems) is self-perpetuating. You feel horrible, so you turn inward avoiding life. This typically leads to additional disruptions such as sleeping too much (which paradoxically makes you more fatigued). In turn, you spend more time in your mind and continue to feel worse as there seems to be no end to the negative feedback loop of rumination.
A psychologist trained in cognitive-behavioral therapy can help you understand a formulation of your specific issues within your depressive episode, and assist you in reversing the self-perpetuating patterns of your depression. As others have suggested, see a physician first to rule out any medical contributions to depression.
When you learn how to go against the grain of depression, things start to get better. A CBT therapist can help you relate to your thoughts better and allow you to gain distance from them. One of the biggest challenges with depression can be preventing depressive relapse, so continuing with CBT skills such as various thought distancing strategies when you are no longer depressed (e.g., mindfulness based skill development) has been proven to reduce the frequency of depressive episode relapse.
Always remember that there is hope, regardless of what your mind tells you. If your depression is severe enough that you believe therapy is not helping, consider upping the frequency of your outpatient visits and/or attending a graded level of care program in a hospital if needed (i.e., intensive outpatient, partial hospitalization, or inpatient). Sometimes weekly visits aren't enough to reverse your current pattern if you are in a deep depression. So if you are not responding, don't interpret your situation as hopeless. There tends to be a significant dose response relationship with depression. The more depressed you are, the more beneficial it often is to up the treatment intensity. If you are having thoughts of hurting yourself, call the suicide prevention hotline at 800-273-8255.
If you haven't already tried CBT, look for therapists versed in treatments such as behavioral activation, mindfulness-based cognitive therapy for depression, acceptance and commitment therapy, functional analytic psychotherapy, and cognitive therapy. If your sleep is messed up (as it often can be), seeing someone well versed in CBT for insomnia (CBT-I) can significantly improve treatment outcomes for depression.
There are additional treatments for severe depression when therapy fails, but that is a decision that is best made by you consulting with a doctoral-level mental health professional.
Hang in there! It will turn around for you!
A psychologist trained in cognitive-behavioral therapy can help you understand a formulation of your specific issues within your depressive episode, and assist you in reversing the self-perpetuating patterns of your depression. As others have suggested, see a physician first to rule out any medical contributions to depression.
When you learn how to go against the grain of depression, things start to get better. A CBT therapist can help you relate to your thoughts better and allow you to gain distance from them. One of the biggest challenges with depression can be preventing depressive relapse, so continuing with CBT skills such as various thought distancing strategies when you are no longer depressed (e.g., mindfulness based skill development) has been proven to reduce the frequency of depressive episode relapse.
Always remember that there is hope, regardless of what your mind tells you. If your depression is severe enough that you believe therapy is not helping, consider upping the frequency of your outpatient visits and/or attending a graded level of care program in a hospital if needed (i.e., intensive outpatient, partial hospitalization, or inpatient). Sometimes weekly visits aren't enough to reverse your current pattern if you are in a deep depression. So if you are not responding, don't interpret your situation as hopeless. There tends to be a significant dose response relationship with depression. The more depressed you are, the more beneficial it often is to up the treatment intensity. If you are having thoughts of hurting yourself, call the suicide prevention hotline at 800-273-8255.
If you haven't already tried CBT, look for therapists versed in treatments such as behavioral activation, mindfulness-based cognitive therapy for depression, acceptance and commitment therapy, functional analytic psychotherapy, and cognitive therapy. If your sleep is messed up (as it often can be), seeing someone well versed in CBT for insomnia (CBT-I) can significantly improve treatment outcomes for depression.
There are additional treatments for severe depression when therapy fails, but that is a decision that is best made by you consulting with a doctoral-level mental health professional.
Hang in there! It will turn around for you!
Posted on 6/24/21 at 2:41 am to rebel cat
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I'm a huge believer of SSRI's. Prozac did so much for me a therapist could ever do.
Studies show they only work for about 30% of people. But if you're in that 30%, they are a game changer. I would say everyone with true clinical depression should at least try them. They have very few side-effects and are cheap these days.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 7:15 am to wasteland
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I’d love to hear about others overcoming these dark times and how you manage it.
I wish I could tell you how to overcome it, all I can tell you is I feel your pain.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 8:56 am to wasteland
I had off and on depression when I was younger, and then suffered through a one year period of suicidal depression when I was 22. Below is a list of things that got me out of it and I've been good ever since. Many of these have been mentioned already. They sound simple, but they work when done regularly.
Exercise - start out simply by taking a 30 minute walk each day. Enjoy the scenery, people watch, whatever, but take your mind off whatever is troubling you. This is a habit you can maintain for the rest of your life and will improve your physical and mental health.
Diet - cut fast food and as many processed foods out of your life as possible. They are filled with unnatural crap that affects your brain chemistry. Eat more whole foods and learn some simple recipes you can cook. Chopping vegetables and cooking can be meditative, and it connects you to what you put in your body.
Sunlight - this is scientifically proven. Get outside more and be in the sun. When I was at my lowest point, I was working a night shift and was indoors most of the time. Once I changed my hours and started getting outside more regularly, my mood improved tremendously.
Read - stay mentally active and try to learn something new each day.
Eliminate negativity - get off social media. Figure out who your friends are. If you have people in your life that are negative, they need to go. It can be difficult, but you need to prioritize your mental well being over their feelings. Misery loves company is a saying for a reason. Don't let it infect your life.
Spirituality - The biggest mistake people make is thinking that God has their well being first and foremost, and then becoming disillusioned when their prayers aren't answered. You may think you are unlucky, God doesn't exist, the world has no meaning, etc. This is false. Everything happens for a reason; you just might not like what the reason is because you are not the center of God's narrative. The truth is you have to find your own meaning in the world and a purpose. Find something you enjoy and people who rely on you. You will find more purpose in your life when you have people you love that need you more than you need yourself.
Note, spirituality doesn't necessarily mean prayer or religion. It's finding peace between you and the world around you. If you are not religious, I'd suggest reading Book I of The Ethics by Spinoza. It completely changed my understanding of God and nature.
In the end, the only things you can control in this world are yourself and your actions. Focus on that and leave the rest up to God. Stop worrying about other people's opinions and actions and it'll lead to happiness.
I hope this advice helps you as much as it did me.
Exercise - start out simply by taking a 30 minute walk each day. Enjoy the scenery, people watch, whatever, but take your mind off whatever is troubling you. This is a habit you can maintain for the rest of your life and will improve your physical and mental health.
Diet - cut fast food and as many processed foods out of your life as possible. They are filled with unnatural crap that affects your brain chemistry. Eat more whole foods and learn some simple recipes you can cook. Chopping vegetables and cooking can be meditative, and it connects you to what you put in your body.
Sunlight - this is scientifically proven. Get outside more and be in the sun. When I was at my lowest point, I was working a night shift and was indoors most of the time. Once I changed my hours and started getting outside more regularly, my mood improved tremendously.
Read - stay mentally active and try to learn something new each day.
Eliminate negativity - get off social media. Figure out who your friends are. If you have people in your life that are negative, they need to go. It can be difficult, but you need to prioritize your mental well being over their feelings. Misery loves company is a saying for a reason. Don't let it infect your life.
Spirituality - The biggest mistake people make is thinking that God has their well being first and foremost, and then becoming disillusioned when their prayers aren't answered. You may think you are unlucky, God doesn't exist, the world has no meaning, etc. This is false. Everything happens for a reason; you just might not like what the reason is because you are not the center of God's narrative. The truth is you have to find your own meaning in the world and a purpose. Find something you enjoy and people who rely on you. You will find more purpose in your life when you have people you love that need you more than you need yourself.
Note, spirituality doesn't necessarily mean prayer or religion. It's finding peace between you and the world around you. If you are not religious, I'd suggest reading Book I of The Ethics by Spinoza. It completely changed my understanding of God and nature.
In the end, the only things you can control in this world are yourself and your actions. Focus on that and leave the rest up to God. Stop worrying about other people's opinions and actions and it'll lead to happiness.
I hope this advice helps you as much as it did me.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 9:01 am to wasteland
Keep your mind and body occupied. Eat well, and exercise.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 9:05 am to wasteland
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I’d love to hear about others overcoming these dark times and how you manage it.
Set goals every day. No matter how small.
If meds help, take them consistently. Vitamins are good too.
Exercise. Especially if you like it. Doesn't have to just be running if that's not for you.
Lastly, and this is just for me personally but I highly recommend it:
Smoke weed. THC keeps my anxiety down, and lightens my moods, helping make the depression lighter. I hit my vape as I'm driving up in my driveway just about every day, and it has worked wonders for me personally. Plus you can buy thc legally in BR now. Easier than getting into cars with strangers
Posted on 6/24/21 at 9:20 am to wasteland
Ain't there yet but I'm finding out that just mentioning it out loud or reaching out to certain people might help. 
Keep trying to hang in there wasteland.
Keep trying to hang in there wasteland.Posted on 6/24/21 at 9:22 am to ShoeBang
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Easier than getting into cars with strangers.
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