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re: Denham Springs High school football player dies after collapsing during practice

Posted on 9/18/20 at 10:16 am to
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
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17625 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 10:16 am to
My wife told me this morning. I have a kid the same age and couldn't imagine.
Posted by WillFerrellisking
Member since Jun 2019
2448 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 10:16 am to
Just horrible to hear, prayers for the family and school.
Posted by Clark W Griswold
THE USA
Member since Sep 2012
10820 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 10:18 am to
With so much focus on safety these days it’s hard to imagine this happening. Shows how serious it can be in the south.
Posted by CypressTrout10
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2016
3122 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 10:23 am to
The heat index was not high on this day.
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
7650 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 10:23 am to
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best ways to do so


Education regarding proper hydration.

Training coaches to recognize signs.

Maybe push activities to cooler times of day if possible.

Of course we cannot eliminate risk, and shitty things can happen.

But, we can take common sense steps to reduce.

I think we already did this to some extent. But, can always evaluate and improve.
Posted by rented mule
Member since Sep 2005
2716 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 10:23 am to
By all accounts, he was a really great kid. All the stories I have heard over the last few days is that he was very humble, polite, and extremely thoughtful. I hate that his family has to go through this.
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
17625 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 10:28 am to
quote:

Education regarding proper hydration.


With all the COVID shite going at my son's football practice, the school can't have the "shared" water station. I don't know what you call it, it's like an ice chest with 5 or 6 spouts on it.

So kids have to bring their own water. I've seen a bunch of kids drink all their water before practice is over and some kids don't even bring any.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
53618 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 10:35 am to
What's sad is you have a hospital that is nothing more than a structure at this point.
They built a children's hospital but don't have the staff or technology to treat him in Baton Rouge.
I knew once they sent up to New Orleans it was only a matter of time. His only chance would have been to airlift him to New Orleans from the beginning with fever of 106 and even then that would not have been enough.
Sad!
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
33632 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 10:38 am to
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quote:
We should do all we can to mitigate this

What are the best ways to do so?

hydration and acclimation.

in the old days kids were outside all day every day all summer.. coaches pretty much withheld hydration, things like this rarely happened.

fast forward to the generations of kids that spend nearly all of their waking moments in AC....

i know one summer i baled hay.. 2 a days was like a vacation.

the summer before i worked in a car dealership inside all day all summer.... 2 a days kicked my keester.


add in the fact that kids today drink so many energy drinks/soft drinks hydration is marginal at best.(not saying this is the case but - I've seen plenty more kids go down now adays from heat exhaustion and cramps.


I know one coach that pretty much banned his kids from drinking energy drinks because they found a massive increase in heat related issues with kids drinking them(lots of them).
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
33632 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 10:40 am to
quote:

quote:
Education regarding proper hydration.


With all the COVID shite going at my son's football practice, the school can't have the "shared" water station. I don't know what you call it, it's like an ice chest with 5 or 6 spouts on it.

So kids have to bring their own water. I've seen a bunch of kids drink all their water before practice is over and some kids don't even bring any.

if you're in the heat everyday hydration is a 24/7 practice not simply while a kid is at practice. without constant proper hydration eventually your body can't catch back up.
Posted by ConfusedHawgInMO
Member since Apr 2014
3578 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 10:42 am to
My alma mater in NE Arky had a kid die last month of a heatstroke. They got him to Memphis and actually ended up on a transplant list, got a liver, but had complications and passed away.

Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69416 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 10:43 am to
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Education regarding proper hydration. Training coaches to recognize signs. Maybe push activities to cooler times of day if possible. Of course we cannot eliminate risk, and shitty things can happen. But, we can take common sense steps to reduce. I think we already did this to some extent. But, can always evaluate and improve.



When I played they pretty much only allowed us to get water once a practice. It was almost viewed as you were weak for wanting water. This was before the internet and 24/7 news...so you never really heard about cases like this.

Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
17373 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 10:49 am to
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They now have rules of having to call practice based on heat humidity, just has always been the case for lightning proximity. Not sure if La has that.


It is a rule here too. Not sure what the exact temp/humidity rate is to call practice but I do know it is a rule in place
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
22281 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 10:49 am to
quote:

We should do all we can to mitigate this

What are the best ways to do so?


Not to de-rail this thread but education (drilling it into kids heads) is the most important thing to do.

I experienced a couple of bad cases of heat exhaustion when I was in HS and college. Once I ended up in an emergency room, but nothing close to what this kid did.

I would think that coaches are trained on what to watch for but whether they do or not is another question. The first thing that NEEDS to happen is to educate the players. Effective hydration doesn't occur DURING the activity. Your body must be hydrated before you start, especially in these high temp high humidity days. You cannot play catch up with staying hydrated. You have to intake sufficient fluids the night before so that they can be absorbed by the body. Its a slow process. I really doubt kids are taught this.
Posted by Dominate308
South Florida
Member since Jan 2013
2895 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 10:51 am to
Let’s wait to see what the cause was. That day wasn’t that hot. Probably something unfortunately natural.
Posted by LSUtiger89
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
4499 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 10:52 am to
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I have a feeling this will be one of those situations where COVID-19 is found after the fact


FIFY
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
22281 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 11:02 am to
quote:

fast forward to the generations of kids that spend nearly all of their waking moments in AC....

i know one summer i baled hay.. 2 a days was like a vacation.


I did the same. I wonder how many of today's kids could survive a week of baling hay.
Posted by Ping Pong
LSU and UVA alum
Member since Aug 2014
5917 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 11:03 am to
Terrible news. I hope he doesn't test positive for covid or the media will eat this up.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
48992 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 11:03 am to
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What are the best ways to do so?


Sports are just like industrial/construction sites.
I was on an ERT(we all had Emt-Basic certifications) for 4 yrs at a plant in Louisiana. This is what we focused on to prevent heat exhaustion and stroke:

1. Acclimation. Ease the athlete/worker into heat exposure.
2. Clothing/material.
3. Hydration.
4. Timed work/break schedule correlated to heat index.
5. Not really applicable to HS kids as much as roofers and contractors in a plant but... SOBRIETY. Hungover people have much higher risk of heat stroke for obvious reasons. It's important to not let noticeably hungover idiots work in the sun or in hot areas of a plant.

This post was edited on 9/18/20 at 3:46 pm
Posted by TechDawg2007
Bawville
Member since Nov 2007
32442 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 11:04 am to
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Heat stroke 50/50 chance
This is 100% false. Death from heat stroke is 100% survivable if it's recognized by a rectal temp and cold bath immersion within 30 minutes
This post was edited on 9/18/20 at 11:05 am
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