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re: Denham Springs High school football player dies after collapsing during practice
Posted on 9/18/20 at 11:07 am to TechDawg2007
Posted on 9/18/20 at 11:07 am to TechDawg2007
It’s my understanding that a trainer was onsite & an ice bath was given before the ambulance got there
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Posted on 9/18/20 at 11:08 am to REB BEER
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With all the COVID shite going at my son's football practice
I'd bet my paycheck that once you get into the weeds of this tragedy (if an investigation that deep is ever done) you will find that COVID "mitigation protocols" had a major effect on this.
Posted on 9/18/20 at 11:09 am to CypressTrout10
quote:A few years ago at the Boston Marathon is was 71 degrees as the high. Over 200 runners were diagnosed with heat related illnesses. Heat illnesses aren't related to hydration and not all the time by what the HI is
he heat index was not high on this day.
Posted on 9/18/20 at 11:25 am to choupiquesushi
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hydration and acclimation.
Acclimation is huge. They had just started practices in full gear. Can’t go full tilt until you get acclimated.
And yes hydration has to be done all the time (days before) and you need electrolytes too, not just water. When you are sweating you are losing a lot of electrolytes and that shouldn’t be replaced with just water.
For those saying it had to be something else, his temp was 106. The basketball players that fall out due to heart defects don’t have a temp like that.
This post was edited on 9/18/20 at 11:48 am
Posted on 9/18/20 at 11:30 am to LSU316
quote:happens a few times a year nationwide covid or not.
I'd bet my paycheck that once you get into the weeds of this tragedy (if an investigation that deep is ever done) you will find that COVID "mitigation protocols" had a major effect on this.
Posted on 9/18/20 at 11:37 am to LSU316
quote:
I'd bet my paycheck that once you get into the weeds of this tragedy (if an investigation that deep is ever done) you will find that COVID "mitigation protocols" had a major effect on this.
I know at our local HS the kids were working out on their own over the summer. I guarantee the intensity level wasn't the same as an organized conditioning program.
Posted on 9/18/20 at 11:41 am to Jim Rockford
My heart breaks for his family. So sad. Were masks required for their workouts? I hope not.
Posted on 9/18/20 at 11:42 am to IndianInBR
awful man, just awful
Posted on 9/18/20 at 11:43 am to REB BEER
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With all the COVID shite going at my son's football practice, the school can't have the "shared" water station. I don't know what you call it, it's like an ice chest with 5 or 6 spouts on it.
So kids have to bring their own water. I've seen a bunch of kids drink all their water before practice is over and some kids don't even bring any.
^ This! My son plays football in the area as well. There was nothing sent to the students or parents letting them know that water would not be supplied until after the first practice. Multiple children got sick and threw up during that practice because they could not give them water.
Since then, my son brings two large bottles of water in his booksack just for practice. Is that enough? Probably not, but because of COVID, this is where we are. With all the statistics regarding COVID and children, I'd prefer my son to use a shared water setup (ORANGE IGLOO) and reduce the risk of dehydration, heat exhaustion, or a heat stroke.
And sure....the kids should be hydrated before practice (day(s) before, morning of, etc.), I get that. Water is essential to many things, including reducing body temperature, which can help prevent heat strokes.
/rant
Posted on 9/18/20 at 11:47 am to choupiquesushi
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happens a few times a year nationwide covid or not.
Sure it does, but the fact that these kids can only drink the water that they bring (carry all day throughout classes) probably plays a role in issues like this.
Posted on 9/18/20 at 12:24 pm to choupiquesushi
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happens a few times a year nationwide covid or not.
Yes it does, but the Covid guidelines placed on the coaches and trainers on how to hydrate the kids are the exact reason why many people in sports med wanted to play football in the early spring.
In other sports, its much easier to hyrdate the players due to less volume and the kids not wearing 15 lbs of equipment. Couple that with no spring training and limited summer workout routine, if any, I'm surprised we haven't seen more of this.
Posted on 9/18/20 at 12:30 pm to Shexter
Man, that is sad....
Posted on 9/18/20 at 12:37 pm to AMac
Yeah, tell em internet badass.
Posted on 9/18/20 at 12:45 pm to IndianInBR
Tragic does not begin to cover this. My son plays for Denham and was there when Remy went down. The entire squad and school is really shook up.
Many folks say they cannot imagine what the parents are going through - - but I can. I lost a child. Hardest thing a person will ever have to do. That's all I really want to say about that.
Lift these kids up in your prayers, guys. It is surely going to take some wind out their sails for a while.
Many folks say they cannot imagine what the parents are going through - - but I can. I lost a child. Hardest thing a person will ever have to do. That's all I really want to say about that.
Lift these kids up in your prayers, guys. It is surely going to take some wind out their sails for a while.
Posted on 9/18/20 at 12:51 pm to Barrister
Heard his core temp was 106.... Edit.. Now seeing in a previous post..
They put him on ECMO at CHNOLA... Usually last chance situation..
Really sad news... I was pulling for the kid..
They put him on ECMO at CHNOLA... Usually last chance situation..
Really sad news... I was pulling for the kid..
This post was edited on 9/18/20 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 9/18/20 at 1:11 pm to Naptime
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And you are adding to the rumor mill. If you know for a fact what happened that’s one thing. But the “I heard” stories” aren’t needed out of respect to all involved.
This came from another player at the practice drill. I added the rumor comment because I realize kids can exaggerate. The fact that his body temp was so high lends credibility to the account. Wasn’t being disrespectful to anyone. It’s a tragedy, and hopefully lessons were learned so it’s not repeated.
Posted on 9/18/20 at 1:20 pm to GetBackToWork
Man, seeing him in his little football jersey then and then still playing the game today. Sad to see.
Posted on 9/18/20 at 1:25 pm to TechDawg2007
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Heat illnesses aren't related to hydration a
Did you mean "are related"?
Posted on 9/18/20 at 1:39 pm to 4evrlsu
I don’t think running gashers or suicides is different than what happens at every football practice. We ran suicides and gadgets when I played high school football. Our water breaks were scripted into the practice. You didn’t got get water “when you wanted it” you got water when they were scripted in.
I can see where coaches might be pushing harder with conditioning because of all the lost time and conditioning lost over the suMmer and in the past month because of Covid shutdowns. I can see a world where the ramp up in conditioning was compressed.
I can see where coaches might be pushing harder with conditioning because of all the lost time and conditioning lost over the suMmer and in the past month because of Covid shutdowns. I can see a world where the ramp up in conditioning was compressed.
Posted on 9/18/20 at 1:57 pm to IndianInBR
If you see a kid collapse like that, or start acting goofy, get them in an ice bath ASAP and then get them to the hospital once they are cool. Unless the kid is pulseless in which case it’s probably a primary cardiac issue and you should do CPR. This situation sucks. It usually happens from a failure to recognize the signs of heat stroke and then a failure to act with immediate cooling PRIOR to transporting to the hospital.
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