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re: Dementia: Disabling Firearms

Posted on 3/3/22 at 11:44 am to
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26697 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 11:44 am to
If you are at this point you need to confiscate the weapons entirely.

By the way, nice job creating evidence that you knew or should have known that this person was a danger to themselves or others.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
11025 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 11:48 am to
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How difficult would it be to disable firearms without an elderly person knowing?

Are there parts on most guns that removal would cause the gun to 100% not fire? Do pistols have removable firing pins like a rifle?



I feel like there's more to the story here that we're missing.

Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
20480 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 12:00 pm to

Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
8273 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 12:01 pm to
Remove the firing pin
Posted by Shorty_price
Member since Oct 2018
211 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 12:05 pm to
Went through this with my old man. I told him I was taking them to my place to clean them for him and I would bring them back next time I visited. He didn't argue so the event of me asking if I could take them didn't stick out in his memory banks. He never asked about them again after that. If you create a tense situation by telling him you are taking them and he doesn't have a choice, it will be a constant issue. You have to make it seem like their idea, much like taking the keys away.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
18758 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 12:11 pm to
Yes pistols (semi autos) have firing pins.

Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 12:12 pm to
quote:

I’m going through this too. He thought a speaker falling from a shelf was a sniper shot. He was literally army crawling in his house to avoid being shot. I took all of his guns and he hasn’t even noticed. Prayers to you.


My mother thought her friend and neighbor of 30 years was plotting to kill her and take her car. It seems like friends and relatives suddenly being seen as threats is pretty common.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11489 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 12:12 pm to
Take away guns from mentally ill people. Period. Lock your guns up if you have mentally ill people living in your house. Period.
Posted by Blutarsky
112th Congress
Member since Jan 2004
9874 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 12:21 pm to
If they pull them on the wrong people, they will get shot, disabled or not.

Best thing to do is remove it completely from the household.
This post was edited on 3/3/22 at 12:25 pm
Posted by bbarras85
Member since Jul 2021
2008 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 12:23 pm to
My grandfather has dementia and over the last few years I have slowly taken every firearm he owns one by one. He has never noticed and they are locked away in my safe.
Posted by PSUMMERS
Ms
Member since Sep 2014
388 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 12:25 pm to
Remove the firing pins 100% will not fire. You may someone who knows there way around firearms to help or look up on YouTube
Posted by FlyingPelican
St. George (someday)
Member since Sep 2021
162 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

Trade out the ammo with blanks

Blanks still go bang. Years ago an actor shot himself with a blank, the shockwave and the wadding were enough to kill him.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71539 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 12:27 pm to
Disabling firearms is not a smart idea. Either have a frank conversation with them, or go through the medical channels.

If he's riddled with dementia, then I agree with the guy who said he took them to clean them.
This post was edited on 3/3/22 at 12:30 pm
Posted by rexorotten
Missouri
Member since Oct 2013
3935 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 12:41 pm to
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Trade out the ammo with blanks


This post was edited on 3/3/22 at 12:42 pm
Posted by Thracken13
Aft Cargo Hold of Serenity
Member since Feb 2010
16124 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 12:42 pm to
take it away from them like I did with my Dad = he doesn't even remember he had one.
Posted by OU812ME2
Earth
Member since Jun 2021
832 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 12:54 pm to
Just take them. Don't worry, they're going to always be mad and upset at you from now on anyway. It's a crappy road, no need in making it even worse by having someone armed with dementia.
Posted by CHSTigersFan
Charleston, Arkansas
Member since Jan 2005
2738 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 12:59 pm to
Forget disabling just send them to me.
Posted by Bucket
Member since Feb 2011
75 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 1:07 pm to
I'm going through this now with my father who is retired law enforcement. We had to remove the firearms completely. It wasn't worth the risk of him walking down the street with a gun because he thought someone was out to get him. The neighbors or responding police won't know the gun doesn't function.
It's a hard thing to do but it was necessary for us.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
5967 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 1:15 pm to


elderly person had a loaded 38 revolver with a round in each cylinder. I waited till he was asleep , removed the rounds and placed it back just like he had it
Posted by CC
Western NY
Member since Feb 2004
14868 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 2:12 pm to
My dad, not a cop but a firearm collector, suffered 2 strokes and has delusional dementia. He often thinks the house is filling with water. I just took all of his guns away and he doesn’t even know.
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