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re: Defense Attorneys, have you ever represented a client that you knew was a colossal POS?
Posted on 3/26/26 at 9:02 am to FAT SEXY
Posted on 3/26/26 at 9:02 am to FAT SEXY
Regardless of how heinous the person may be, they are still owed a fair trial and fair representation. That’s how our system operates and you can’t allow personal feelings/beliefs get in the way of carrying it out.
That’s what José biaz told my college class when he spoke. He’s a POS but was a solid point.
That’s what José biaz told my college class when he spoke. He’s a POS but was a solid point.
This post was edited on 3/26/26 at 9:03 am
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Posted on 3/26/26 at 9:03 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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This is lawyers making up their own ethics. Explain why lawyers chase cases and appeals of crimes that are caught on camera, and then appeal sentences? Please and thanks.
Chase cases? Are you under the impression that criminal defense attorneys are out there cold calling defendants or something?
Beyond that bit, your question isn’t unique. Just read the rest of the thread for your answer
Posted on 3/26/26 at 9:03 am to SuperSaint
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Went with the long shot percentage that folks that were diddled are more likely to become diddlers. Having a diddler in the jury box could have been a game changer when otherwise the defendant was cooked.
If true, that back-fired like a mo fo!
Will leave it at that…
Posted on 3/26/26 at 9:07 am to Joshjrn
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Chase cases? Are you under the impression that criminal defense attorneys are out there cold calling defendants or something?
Beyond that bit, your question isn’t unique. Just read the rest of the thread for your answer
Chasing cases as in the defendant is on camera, or has witnesses that can't be discredited, and the lawyer goes through the appeals process and appeals the sentencing of said client when they are guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. What moral high ground are you standing on?
Posted on 3/26/26 at 9:09 am to liz18lsu
quote:Everyone hates lawyers… until they need one.
So, you'd have no qualms in defending someone like Kermit Gosnell, because "it's the state's job" to prove he's a monster? That level of detached reasoning shows your arrogance. And greed.
Your level of “reasoning” indicates you’re in favor of a government dictatorship where they get to throw people in jail unopposed. (see how that works?)
Posted on 3/26/26 at 9:20 am to FAT SEXY
I formerly did tax defense so had to defend some tax protestors so yes you could say that. Some were sincere and made their money honorably, others were charlatans hiding behind some fake church.
The worst, by far, was a guy who ran scam charities.
The worst, by far, was a guy who ran scam charities.
This post was edited on 3/26/26 at 9:21 am
Posted on 3/26/26 at 9:21 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Chasing cases as in the defendant is on camera, or has witnesses that can't be discredited, and the lawyer goes through the appeals process and appeals the sentencing of said client when they are guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. What moral high ground are you standing on?
That’s just a long winded way of asking OP’s question. Read the rest of the thread
Posted on 3/26/26 at 9:21 am to FAT SEXY
quote:FIFY...
Defense Attorneys, have you ever represented a client that you knew was NOT a colossal POS?
Posted on 3/26/26 at 9:22 am to CatfishJohn
A bunch. Probably close to 10
Posted on 3/26/26 at 9:23 am to Joshjrn
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That’s just a long winded way of asking OP’s question. Read the rest of the thread
I'll take your non-answer and hiding behind the way the system works as not having an answer. Thanks.
Posted on 3/26/26 at 9:24 am to TrueTiger
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The government has unlimited resources to run any citizen over and there are some crooked DAs and cops that will do it.
We only need to look at President Trump as an example.
Defense attorneys are a necessary speed bump to try and keep government power in check.
This happens WAY less than people think. In almost every case, it’s a guilty piece of shite who walks free due to a lazy DA.
Posted on 3/26/26 at 9:25 am to FAT SEXY
Most attorneys are equal pieces of shite.
Posted on 3/26/26 at 9:25 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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I'll take your non-answer and hiding behind the way the system works as not having an answer. Thanks.
And I’ll take your response as an indication that you’re an illiterate imbecile. You’re welcome
Posted on 3/26/26 at 9:31 am to Joshjrn
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And I’ll take your response as an indication that you’re an illiterate imbecile. You’re welcome
Read the entire thread. "everyone deserves representation" blah blah blah. Noone has stated how they sleep at night knowing they are trying to get a guilty as sin criminal released or obtain shorter sentence. We've actually seen the opposite, where people talk about peers looking down on someone for having a conscience about representing the aforementioned criminal due to the natrue of their crime, and instead feeling like they have to do it to appease the attorney circle jerk.
This post was edited on 3/26/26 at 9:33 am
Posted on 3/26/26 at 9:33 am to liz18lsu
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So, you'd have no qualms in defending someone like Kermit Gosnell, because "it's the state's job" to prove he's a monster? That level of detached reasoning shows your arrogance. And greed
This is an insane opinion of how the justice system should work. Of course the state should have to prove its case, no matter how heinous the crime. In fact, the most heinous crimes deserve the best defense. Those crimes are the ones most at risk of being decided through emotions rather than facts, and a solid defense ensures that the case has been proven and no avenues for scrapping a guilty verdict exist.
The alternative is to determine someone who does XYZ crime is beyond defense and is guilty based on accusation alone. No way that could go wrong.
Posted on 3/26/26 at 9:37 am to theliontamer
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I would estimate over 80% of the people represented by defense attorneys are POS
Without a doubt. If you find yourself in a courthouse for any criminal case other than a traffic ticket, you’re a piece of shite who definitely did it, but it’s up to how good of a job the cops and DA did to build the case, and ny faith in them isn’t much.
Posted on 3/26/26 at 9:38 am to Joshjrn
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Knew? Nope, but I represented plenty of people I was fairly certain were. No juggling needed. It’s the State’s burden to prove their case. Why would it be immoral to make sure they do so?
I was coming say you have represented plenty of these guilty mfers.
Posted on 3/26/26 at 9:50 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Read the entire thread. "everyone deserves representation" blah blah blah. Noone has stated how they sleep at night knowing they are trying to get a guilty as sin criminal released or obtain shorter sentence. We've actually seen the opposite, where people talk about peers looking down on someone for having a conscience about representing the aforementioned criminal due to the natrue of their crime, and instead feeling like they have to do it to appease the attorney circle jerk.
So you have your answer; you just don't like the answer. That's ok
Posted on 3/26/26 at 9:54 am to mikelbr
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I was coming say you have represented plenty of these guilty mfers.
Posted on 3/26/26 at 9:56 am to ChestRockwell
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A bunch. Probably close to 10
Are they all defense attorneys or ambulance chasers? I know probably 100 just due to work (and family is full of them).
Lawyers do all sorts of things, not just sleezy stuff. For example, I work in M&A a lot and those lawyers just draw up acquisition or divestiture agreements and just focus on post transaction risk. Nothing sleezy about it.
Most lawyers aren't sleezy, just the loudest ones.
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