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re: Daniel Perry Trial - Man who shot Austin protestor. Verdict Guilty. Abbot seeking pardon

Posted on 3/30/23 at 8:49 pm to
Posted by Captain Lafitte
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Posted on 3/30/23 at 8:49 pm to
Posted by tketaco
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Posted on 3/30/23 at 8:51 pm to
Never forget, the OT was there for the Rittenhouse Shootings.
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
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Posted on 3/30/23 at 8:54 pm to
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Daisy, who is a medic and uses they/them pronouns,


Enough said.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 3/30/23 at 9:09 pm to
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I haven’t seen any pictures that show he had it pointed at the driver, but…does one have to wait until a man with a rifle points a gun at your face (and shoots?) until you can defend yourself? I know you aren’t staying otherwise, but I’m just curious how this will play out. Clearly, the answer is no. But with people beating on your car, and a man with a gun ready to shoot you, I’m sure that will factor in.

For sure. I would think it exonerates the driver if the other guy did point a gun at him, but doesn’t necessarily bury him if not.

I read one of the APD officers testified that he had seen the guy with the AK carrying it in a “threateningly” way prior to the incident, and had already told him something about it.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 3/31/23 at 10:09 am to
Truly a sad day in this country


Some updates from yesterday:

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Much discussion from the defense today surrounded the way Foster carried the rifle when he approached Perry’s vehicle. Several witnesses said they saw Foster carrying the weapon with the barrel pointed down and the strap around his shoulder.

The defense is suggesting that Foster was “brandishing” his weapon, meaning he was carrying the rifle in a dangerous or threatening way. Officer Cleveland of APD agreed with the defense that the way Foster was handling the weapon was dangerous.

In fact, Cleveland testified that he had seen Foster at prior protests carrying his rifle in a “threatening” way. Cleveland told the court that he had previously admonished Foster for the way he carried his weapon at these protests. He said Foster ignored these comments.

Cleveland testified that if a person brandished a weapon toward him then that person would be shot.





Holy shite.
This post was edited on 4/7/23 at 4:47 pm
Posted by kennypowers
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 3/31/23 at 10:19 am to
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The alleged victim was an Air Force vet and a hardcore libertarian type. Not your typical trustafarian. But misguided. If you go walking around with an AR in that scenario you’re looking for trouble even if you're within your rights to do so.



Careful there Kyle...
Posted by brass2mouth
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Posted on 3/31/23 at 10:30 am to
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WTF do they think the dead protestor did by pointing a weapon at the driver?


Expressing himself.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 4/4/23 at 2:44 pm to
Updates from today: Article

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Expert says Daniel Perry slowed down as he made turn into crowd of protesters

Testimony from a photogrammetry expert in the Daniel Perry murder trial disputed eyewitness accounts that Daniel Perry sped into a crowd of Black Lives Matter protesters before he shot and killed Garrett Foster in downtown Austin.

The expert, Jason Evans, who is an engineer, testified in court on Tuesday. Evans said they performed a laser scan of the scene on Congress Avenue to analyze a number of things, including the speed of Perry’s car. This was based on a dashcam video from an Uber driver who testified in the first week of the murder trial.

“We now have a 3D rendering of the move and the turn of Mr. Perry’s vehicle,” Evans said. “Mr. Perry starts out at 11.9 miles per hour, starts to deaccelerate, or slow down.”

Evans said laser scans — paired with video provided by witnesses — also helped him determine Foster was about 18 inches from Perry’s driver-side door with his rifle a tenth of a second before he was shot.



A 3D rendering from Jason Evans’ analysis, showing the distance Garrett Foster was from Daniel Perry’s car before he was shot and killed during a BLM protest.



Isn't it just weird that the defense has to get these experts in, then the state questions the credibility of them? Shouldn't the state not want to send an innocent man to prison for murder? Shouldn't they also be hiring experts to analyze this data, if it is important? Our justice system shouldn't put priority on prosecutors winning their cases no matter the truth. It should be about getting it right.
This post was edited on 4/4/23 at 3:04 pm
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 4/4/23 at 2:58 pm to
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Never forget, the OT was there for the Rittenhouse Shootings.

This case needs that "oh shite" moment like in Rittenhouse when Grosskrutz (the dude who can no longer do curls for the girls) admitted on the stand Kyle didn't shoot him until he pointed his own gun at Kyle
Posted by NPComb
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Posted on 4/4/23 at 3:12 pm to
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Up next is Niko Daisy, another protestor


Googled Niko Daisy





Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 4/4/23 at 3:24 pm to
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Shouldn't the state not want to send an innocent man to prison for murder?

He’s not innocent, he voted for trump
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 4/4/23 at 4:01 pm to
Why the hell is this a trial. Not guilty. Good shoot.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 4/4/23 at 5:05 pm to
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Why the hell is this a trial. Not guilty. Good shoot.

Because Austin
Posted by This GUN for HIRE
Member since May 2022
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Posted on 4/4/23 at 5:33 pm to
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It should be about getting it right.


He never should’ve been indicted. They should’ve talked to Officer Cleveland before they did anything else.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 4/4/23 at 5:39 pm to
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sped into a crowd of Black Lives Matter protesters

Again, they should stop calling those people "protesters". As soon as they chose to illegally block a public roadway they stopped being protesters and became criminals. They were criminals unlawfully assembling to block a public roadway and impede other citizen's right to travel. Period.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 4/4/23 at 5:52 pm to
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Isn't it just weird that the defense has to get these experts in, then the state questions the credibility of them? Shouldn't the state not want to send an innocent man to prison for murder? Shouldn't they also be hiring experts to analyze this data, if it is important? Our justice system shouldn't put priority on prosecutors winning their cases no matter the truth. It should be about getting it right.

It’s more than just “getting it right.” The scary part is that the state should be hiring these people to prove he did anything wrong. Because last time I checked the burden of proof was on them to prove he is guilty of anything. It’s not the other way around. “Guilty until proven innocent” is a very dangerous and slippery slope, and would be a disaster.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36014 posts
Posted on 4/4/23 at 6:00 pm to
The next time one of the leftists on this site talks about criminal justice reform, link them this case. These Maoists have no interest in actually limiting the state's ability to incarcerate you, especially if your political ideology is right-of-center.
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
37359 posts
Posted on 4/4/23 at 7:15 pm to
Criminal justice reform is code word for empty the prisons. We don’t have enough prisons and the government is dropping charges against violent repeat criminals over and over again while wasting an untold amount of resources on prosecuting guys like Perry. We need to build mega prisons, pay the guards whatever it takes to fully staff it with quality people, and dish out the maximum sentence to every violent criminal.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
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Posted on 4/5/23 at 6:51 pm to
Both sides rested today... closing arguments start at 9 AM tomorrow... I would imagine the jury will start deliberating around or just after lunchtime tomorrow... see how long it takes to get a not guilty verdict out of this

Sgt. Perry did NOT take the stand in his own defense

the final witness of the trial was the APD lead investigator

KXAN

when the case's lead investigator says this on the stand... you have to wonder why taxpayer money was wasted on trying this case

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Fugitt never recommended that Perry be arrested the night he shot and killed Foster.

“There was a legitimate argument for self-defense,” Fugitt said.
This post was edited on 4/5/23 at 6:53 pm
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36014 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 7:00 pm to
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see how long it takes to get a not guilty verdict out of this

Over 70% of Travis County voted for Biden. I fear at best this will be a hung jury.
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