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re: Dallas suburb growth compared to Houston and San Antonio suburb growth.
Posted on 1/28/22 at 10:22 pm to DeltaTigerDelta
Posted on 1/28/22 at 10:22 pm to DeltaTigerDelta
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a taco truck in front of your neighborhood.
That’s a bad thing?
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 11:14 pm to Dire Wolf
The growth in the Houston Metro area is North into Montgomery County past Conroe and to the southwest past Ft Bend County. There was a lot of growth out to Katy in the west until mother nature reminded people what reservoirs really meant and how you should never move to anything close to a reservoir.
Growth to the Northeast is limited by the very strange people living in Porter and Cut And Shoot. Yes there is a community called Cut And Shoot.
The other amazing thing is I grew up In Kaplan which on a good day had 5,000 population. My subdivision in Montgomery County is 1,500 acres and 3,300 homes. Figure 3.5 people per home and the population is 11k in just this subdivision.
Fortunately I am retired and no longer have to deal with the commute into Harris County.
Growth to the Northeast is limited by the very strange people living in Porter and Cut And Shoot. Yes there is a community called Cut And Shoot.
The other amazing thing is I grew up In Kaplan which on a good day had 5,000 population. My subdivision in Montgomery County is 1,500 acres and 3,300 homes. Figure 3.5 people per home and the population is 11k in just this subdivision.
Fortunately I am retired and no longer have to deal with the commute into Harris County.
Posted on 1/29/22 at 7:36 am to Purplehaze
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The growth in the Houston Metro area is North into Montgomery County past Conroe and to the southwest past Ft Bend County. There was a lot of growth out to Katy in the west until mother nature reminded people what reservoirs really meant and how you should never move to anything close to a reservoir.
Exactly, magnolia is blowing up
Posted on 1/29/22 at 8:02 am to Purplehaze
Harvey flooding isn’t stopping development to the West. School districts are. You can engineer your way out of the floodplain but you can’t control the existing school districts and that’s what really drives these development explosions. That and as mentioned earlier, access.
Shitty Royal ISD is the holdup west Waller ISD will be the next to blow up.
Shitty Royal ISD is the holdup west Waller ISD will be the next to blow up.
Posted on 1/29/22 at 8:11 am to yaboidarrell
I know some long time San Antonians who wish the growth would not be as fast. Have some good friends in New Braunfels who would like bulldoze a lot of the development now taking place there
Posted on 1/29/22 at 8:25 am to turnpiketiger
If you’re just looking at Dallas proper than Houston is a bigger city. If you look at the actual metroplex which is Dallas Ft. Worth the population is larger than Houston or SA. Also the metroplex is a master planned metropolitan area meaning the infrastructure was built planning for the growth so you can actually get around the metroplex without as much congestion as Houston.
In the last 5 years you have all the HQ’s relocating because of good schools in the north burbs and DFW airport. Then you have one of the largest intermodal terminals in Alliance airport north of Ft. Worth. SA is kind of trying to do the same thing but has a long way to go to try and catch up.
In the last 5 years you have all the HQ’s relocating because of good schools in the north burbs and DFW airport. Then you have one of the largest intermodal terminals in Alliance airport north of Ft. Worth. SA is kind of trying to do the same thing but has a long way to go to try and catch up.
Posted on 1/29/22 at 8:38 am to turnpiketiger
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Why have the Dallas suburbs exploded at a much faster rate than the Houston and San Antonio suburbs?
Houston has grown like a weed since the 1980s. And they've done a better job at diversifying their economy than most larger towns with a heavy focus on one major industry.
They have done a good job expanding the metro rail, but I think they need actual commuter trains now, similar to Chicago or some of the NYC suburbs.
They've also done a decent job at gentrification. They should continue and try to get more residents downtown.
This post was edited on 1/29/22 at 8:41 am
Posted on 1/29/22 at 9:50 am to dewster
You won’t have commuter trains. You don’t have the density for residential and the density for jobs. No one is driving their car to a parking lot, getting on a train, and then walking significant distances in Texas heat/humidity, cab, ubering, etc.
Posted on 1/29/22 at 12:15 pm to Mr Sausage
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You won’t have commuter trains. You don’t have the density for residential and the density for jobs. No one is driving their car to a parking lot, getting on a train, and then walking significant distances in Texas heat/humidity, cab, ubering, etc.
Slackers.
I regularly walked a little over 1 mile from Ogilvie Station in Chicago to Randolf/Columbus in Chicago twice a day before the pandemic. Some days I had to run that distance in my dress shoes. And for a month after those days, plantar fasciitis would flare up.
Posted on 1/29/22 at 12:23 pm to Dire Wolf
quote:Bigburr says meet him at Sonic on Aldine Bender Rd
kingwood is ghetto woodlands
Posted on 1/29/22 at 12:34 pm to Mr Sausage
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You won’t have commuter trains.
Dallas has a few in addition to an extensive light rail system.
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No one is driving their car to a parking lot, getting on a train,
Many in Dallas do, the light rail parking lots are always full.
Of course its not to the extent of NYC, Boston or Chicago
Posted on 1/29/22 at 2:11 pm to SuperSaint
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Bigburr says meet him at Sonic on Aldine Bender Rd
I prefer the one on W Lake Houston.
Or better yet just meet me at Three Bs.
Posted on 1/29/22 at 3:13 pm to Zappas Stache
Light rail in Texas is toy trains. More novelty than anything worthwhile and able to make a difference.
Posted on 1/29/22 at 3:38 pm to turnpiketiger
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Why have the Dallas suburbs exploded at a much faster rate than the Houston and San Antonio suburbs?
The number of corporations that have moved and are moving to Dallas and the the northern suburbs is massive. Legacy West in Plano with all of the corporate growth was a game changer and that is the cause of death to the smaller towns north of Dallas with populations exploding.
Posted on 1/29/22 at 5:18 pm to Dire Wolf
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magnolia is blowing up
They’re not even being careful with it either. It’s going to turn into cypress in a heartbeat. Cutting down swaths of mature forest to build shitty strips with for lease signs in the windows. Eventually a vape store will move in only to go out of business in a few months and replaced by a Mexican restaurant. I wish the woodlands would annex the eastern part of magnolia and save it.
Posted on 1/29/22 at 10:02 pm to Chingon Ag
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The number of corporations that have moved and are moving to Dallas and the the northern suburbs is massive. Legacy West in Plano with all of the corporate growth was a game changer and that is the cause of death to the smaller towns north of Dallas with populations exploding.
There have been some great answers in this thread. I too have been curious why Dallas has the most populous suburbs in the Texas Triangle.
Are roadway infrastructure, land quality, and corporate influence the main reasons that Irving, Garland, Plano, and Frisco are so populous relative to other Texas suburbs? McKinney, Grand Prairie, Denton, and other suburbs or exurbs are huge too.
I understand Arlington. It's midway been downtown Dallas and downtown Fort Worth and has much to do. Arlington is also geographically larger than most DFW burbs.
Posted on 1/29/22 at 11:50 pm to turnpiketiger
Also…
Cities by square mileage:
Houston: 669
San Antonio: 505
Dallas: 385
Cities by square mileage:
Houston: 669
San Antonio: 505
Dallas: 385
Posted on 1/30/22 at 8:11 am to DeltaTigerDelta
Texas Forum
Posted on 1/30/22 at 9:38 am to Downburst
Another data point is looking at those adjacent suburb county commissioners and county judges. When those places blew up, you had business first types that were willing to assist development and provide an easy escape from democrat urban cores.
Posted on 1/30/22 at 10:24 am to El Segundo Guy
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You need to stop at Grayson County.
Ha ha I can't wait to move out of Collin County
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