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re: Dallas CoP explains upsurge in crime

Posted on 6/4/19 at 10:50 am to
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
124883 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 10:50 am to
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at least 90% of people in prison are beyond repair

We need to stop letting them out



exactly

most of the people in prison parted with society in their early teens.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21947 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 10:51 am to
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But the for profit prison system is a disgrace


This term is meaningless and harmful in its deception.

Except for small towns that use short term jail stays as a way to extort money for fines from traffic and petty offenses, the prisons do not have control on the “supply” of inmates, either by way of length of jail terms or who gets incarcerated.

Private prisons, like publicly owned prisons, provide a service for a fee. The effectiveness is monitored by oversight in both cases.

At least with private prisons, efficiency is a factor.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61501 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 10:51 am to
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And its not just burglars, the non-violent drug offenders in jail are in the hundreds of thousands I believe
they had to have a strike or two before going to prison

If you can’t stay off the weed or crack when you know you’re facing a prison sentence, you’re not worth much
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
124883 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 10:53 am to
the public would be shocked to know how many "non-violent" offenders had a slew of other crimes dropped in their plea deals.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
96239 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 10:54 am to
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Tell that to the people acting like Dallas is a shithole right now.


Like any big city, parts of Dallas are a shithole right now. Obviously, there are still very nice parts of Dallas.

Expect a rapid expansion in the former, just in response to recent policy changes. I'm just calling them like I see them.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21401 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 10:55 am to
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the public would be shocked to know how many "non-violent" offenders had a slew of other crimes dropped in their plea deals.

They normally drop the lower grade non violent ones first... as they should.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 10:55 am to
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That is insane if they won't prosecute under $750 in theft. That's not exactly a victimless crime. We should be increasing the penalty.



People mischaracterize it into legal theft of under $750.

What he actually said is they might not prosecute people who are stealing necessities like food and diapers under $750. People stealing for profit will be prosecuted.

Still a shitty policy, but not nearly as bad as the fake news brigade here has made it out to be.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 10:56 am to
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This term is meaningless and harmful in its deception.

Except for small towns that use short term jail stays as a way to extort money for fines from traffic and petty offenses, the prisons do not have control on the “supply” of inmates, either by way of length of jail terms or who gets incarcerated.

Private prisons, like publicly owned prisons, provide a service for a fee. The effectiveness is monitored by oversight in both cases.

At least with private prisons, efficiency is a factor.




Do you work for the prison lobby?

Private prison lobby quite effectively for harder sentence structures for convicted criminals. They are making billions of dollars in revenue by keeping sentences longer and recidivism rates higher.

Look how much the GEO Group spends on lobbying for legislation that benefits their bottom line.

It is abhorrent.

Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 10:57 am to
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the public would be shocked to know how many "non-violent" offenders had a slew of other crimes dropped in their plea deals.



No they wouldn't.

Because they usually drop the less severe ones.
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7838 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 10:58 am to
Just got back from Dallas. Could've happened to me.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
124883 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 10:58 am to
private prisons are an abomination


are they the biggest problem in the system? not even fricking close. i'm all for slashing drug crimes if it meant we added draconian sentences for property and violent crime.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61501 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 10:59 am to
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the public would be shocked to know how many "non-violent" offenders had a slew of other crimes dropped in their plea deals.
yep. The non violent offender thing is largely a lib myth.

Jerome is in jail for 25 years for weed! Never mind it was three pounds and he had an a prior distribution charge and four domestic violence arrests.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
26106 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 10:59 am to
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Tell that to the people acting like Dallas is a shithole right now.


When compared to the rest of the Metroplex, it makes a very solid case.


Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
124883 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 11:00 am to
They usually drop the ones that get to a deal


Posted by Smart Post
Member since Feb 2018
3539 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 11:00 am to
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Lol stay away, snowflakes. You act like it's Syria.

More like Somalia.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 11:01 am to
Overall grade is still A and you're mostly comparing it to communities specifically made and master planned as places to live.

With how you post about it, you'd imagine the discrepancy is more like A+ to D or below.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
124883 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 11:01 am to
i think drug prosecutions are bullshite but yeah, any guy moving real weight or things above weed has likely a long record or has committed a bunch of other crimes.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 11:02 am to
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private prisons are an abomination


are they the biggest problem in the system? not even fricking close. i'm all for slashing drug crimes if it meant we added draconian sentences for property and violent crime.




Totally agree.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 11:03 am to
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Farewell, Dallas, we hardly knew ya!


Alaska tried this and it failed miserably. Really impacted quality of life. It's something I see various other places doing now and it's backwards.

Drug crimes? I'm all for decriminalization but once you let the reigns loose on property crime it gets bad
Posted by LSU7096
Member since May 2004
3041 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 11:03 am to
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