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re: Dallas: 12 officers shot, 5 dead, 3 suspects in custody, 1 suspect killed

Posted on 7/8/16 at 9:41 am to
Posted by nes2010
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 7/8/16 at 9:41 am to
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Look at African American Defense League on facebook. He was apparently a member. There last 2 posts have called for killing cops. They are coming to Baton Rouge Monday. Sorry I can't link it


They have been calling for the murder of cops since at least the last year.
This post was edited on 7/8/16 at 9:42 am
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
179043 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 9:41 am to
yep, took fox news a while last night to gather that he was a POI, not a suspect, and then they put together the POI was likely a mistake as he was on ground but kept running with picture.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72160 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 9:41 am to
Last night and this morning it was 4. I think the media is saying 1 because the other 3 are not cooperating and the shooter specifically said he acted alone.

Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15964 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 9:41 am to
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It's funny to imply that just because a guy decided to shoot from either side of a column that's he's some sort of tactical fricking operator


Former secret service agent stated the shooter was using military tactics and was most likely trained,. Dumbass
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 9:41 am to
Have we found a Jamal video from last night yet? He needs to take most of his fellow BLM folks that were interviewed and spinoff from BLM into a coherent group that advocates against police brutality and police brutality only.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
108361 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 9:42 am to
If this isn't declared a hate crime then we have no reason to have a hate crime designation in our law.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24215 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 9:43 am to
It very well could be that it was only one Gunman, but that the other 3 helped him out. By driving him, making a diversion, etc.
Posted by TheChosenOne
Member since Dec 2005
18874 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 9:44 am to
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I'd be shocked if 1 guy was able to pull this massacre off without help.


There has to be more than one, right?

The original shots came from the El Centro garage and that's where the stand off was. If this guy was also the one that shot that cop point blank, it would mean he left his position, ran around shooting on the ground, then went back to his position. I was listening to the scanner pretty early on and it seemed like they had this guy cornered in the garage from the get go, so I'm pretty confused.


The guy who filmed the cop getting shot from behind said that he pulled up and jumped out of a Tahoe right before the gun fight. I guess he could have tried to leave the garage in his car, realized he wasn't getting past the cops and decided to run back to the garage and got in a gun fight along the way.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72160 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 9:44 am to
I have 2 close friends who are SF in the military. Both said his movements were clearly tactical.

Here's a direct quote from my best friend, a green beret.

quote:

Whoever did this doesn't seem like an average joe. Fire and maneuver isn't something a random guy can pull off their first time in a gun fight. I'm anxious to see these shooters and what their background is


And another text from him in response to the awful video of the execution

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Yea I saw that earlier. Def knew what he was doing. Apparently they had very good shot placement as well. It's no easy task to hit ten guys like that. Especially killing 4 and maybe more if some don't make it. Whole thing is crazy.



Posted by RabidTiger
Member since Nov 2009
3127 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 9:45 am to
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Former secret service agent stated the shooter was using military tactics and was most likely trained,


He could have gotten training from a private company. There are lots of gun ranges and other places that offer tactical training.
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23188 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 9:45 am to
OK, Now Wolf Blitzer is now asking about the other 3 in custody. Good grief. What a cluster.

And absolutely, this IS a hate crime. I don't see how it could possibly be called anything else. He told police he wanted to kill white people, and especially white police officers. Textbook.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
179043 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 9:45 am to
do we know distance from cops shot to where sniper location was? 100 yards? 200 yards?
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72160 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 9:46 am to
I really think they are just currently reporting the only facts provided. Al they have to go off of is what the shooter has said and he said he acted alone. Confident we will find out the others were involved once the interrogation continues.
JMO
Posted by TakingStock
Member since Jun 2009
7426 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 9:46 am to
One of the Dallas news articles said the shooter shot the cop outside the garage, ran north and shot out windows and entered the building. At that point, my guess is he went to the 2nd floor of the garage.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72160 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 9:46 am to
Not that I've seen nor heard
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24215 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 9:47 am to
Pretty sure the Micah guy was confirmed ex-military?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 9:47 am to
I'd be just as surprised if it is 4 people involved as I'd be if it's just one person. 2 seems like a safe bet.
Posted by TheChosenOne
Member since Dec 2005
18874 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 9:48 am to
Just found this from the NY times that's actually pretty helpful

LINK
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22773 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 9:48 am to
Shooter said he was a Army vet.
This post was edited on 7/8/16 at 9:49 am
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23188 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 9:48 am to
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There has to be more than one, right?

From what I read and watched last night, it seems like shots were fired from multiple locations. Witnesses, police, reporters - all talked about different places where there was gunfire. There has to be more than one.
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