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re: Creator of mRNA technology speaks out on vaccines

Posted on 7/4/21 at 3:58 pm to
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
8136 posts
Posted on 7/4/21 at 3:58 pm to
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Free market, go find another job

So no, we can’t just chose to not get it and move on with our life?
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20497 posts
Posted on 7/4/21 at 5:16 pm to
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Dr. Malone spoke out against the risks of vaccinations for children and young adults. His video has been removed by YouTube. He is the inventor of the mRNA technology used by Pfizer and Moderna to create their vaccines.



No he didn't. Katalin Kariko invented it.
Posted by TulaneUVA
Member since Jun 2005
25891 posts
Posted on 7/4/21 at 5:54 pm to
There is obviously a dispute on the claim.

Worst case (stick with me here), he knows a lot about this shite whether he is credited with it or not. He’s by all means an “expert”.

So re read the OP with that it mind. What does the “science” tell you?
Posted by TigerV
Member since Feb 2007
2505 posts
Posted on 7/4/21 at 7:06 pm to
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No he didn't. Katalin Kariko invented it.


Was just about to post this. I have a very hard time listening to someone who self proclaims to be the single most qualified person to speak on the subject. Maybe Mr Malone needs to meet Dr Kariko.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77388 posts
Posted on 7/4/21 at 7:45 pm to
Imagine being more worried about long term side affects of a vaccine, but not coronavirus
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260351 posts
Posted on 7/4/21 at 7:46 pm to
Yep, makes no sense to vaccinate kids.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62765 posts
Posted on 7/4/21 at 7:49 pm to
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one paper described obesity as the real pandemic, and I have to say I agree. Just insane we've let more than 35% of this country become like this.

The medical profession and big Pharma needs fat people. That's by far and away their number one type customer and money producer.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
53782 posts
Posted on 7/4/21 at 7:54 pm to
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Imagine being more worried about long term side affects of a vaccine, but not coronavirus


Imagine being one of the 99+% who survive the virus, but shun a pushed upon us hard, vaccine.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29745 posts
Posted on 7/4/21 at 8:04 pm to
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Well we are chatting about misinformation. I think the biggest lie spread by anti-vaxers is this concern about long-term side effects. Reputable virologists have discounted this theory yet anti-vaccine fear mongers have continued to spread it.

This article is scientists and doctors who are responding to concerns about the vaccine.

quote:
Many of the vaccine reluctant have expressed vague concerns that, perhaps, the trials have simply failed to identify dangerous side effects that will suddenly appear round about the time that most of the population is fully vaccinated. Paul Offit, director of the Vaccine Education Center at Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia, called those assertions highly unlikely. In the history of vaccines, he noted, side effects have always appeared within two months of administration. “There are no long-term effects where you find that one year, two years, later your child or you develop some problem that wasn’t picked up initially,” Offit said. “It has never happened.”


Vaxholes are so disingenuous. Everyone knows this mRNA tech is new and so comparing it to other vaccine is complete bullshite.

And you wonder why people are skeptical of this shite.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
17019 posts
Posted on 7/4/21 at 8:23 pm to
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No he didn't. Katalin Kariko invented it.


And her colleague Weissman. Both worked together at U Penn.

Both are probably going to share Nobel prize in medicine.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
5704 posts
Posted on 7/4/21 at 8:29 pm to
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quote: No he didn't. Katalin Kariko invented it.


Was just about to post this. I have a very hard time listening to someone who self proclaims to be the single most qualified person to speak on the subject. Maybe Mr Malone needs to meet Dr Kariko.


Both of you need to meet Drew Weissman who published the paper with Kariko that “solved one of the key technical barriers by using modified nucleosides to get mRNA inside cells without setting off the body's defense system” as well as various people at Vical and University of Wisconsin that pushed using mRNA for vaccines before Kariko & Weissman and Malone who with others published on how to “transfect mRNA into cells” before Kariko & Weissman. Then the people that did something with what all started.

And of course DARPA funding.
This post was edited on 7/5/21 at 11:05 am
Posted by Tomatocantender
Boot
Member since Jun 2021
4753 posts
Posted on 7/4/21 at 8:34 pm to
Is this the same doctor that had a video showing what the mRNA does in a X's and O's football play? That was eye opening to see it laid out like that.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9454 posts
Posted on 7/4/21 at 9:08 pm to
How new is "new"? I believe this mRNA technology was developed 8 or 10 years ago during the SARS epidemic.
Operation Warp Speed accelerated the fine tuning of the vaccine to target COVID-19, but I dont think it's new. It is under an Emergency Use Approval (or whatever the frick the FDA calls it) but is that a bad thing? Where would we be without the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines?
If you want the vaccine, take it. If you dont want it, dont. I'm amazed, and kind of astounded, by the unsolicited lobbying of opponents to the vaccine. The lobbying efforts of vaccine advocates is only slightly less annoying.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29745 posts
Posted on 7/4/21 at 9:12 pm to
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How new is "new"?


Did you even read the post I was responding to??? I’m guessing not.

This post was edited on 7/4/21 at 9:13 pm
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9454 posts
Posted on 7/4/21 at 9:19 pm to
I apologize. I havent done my research. I've had a long day of BBQing and liquor consumption. It's about time for bed.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29745 posts
Posted on 7/4/21 at 9:23 pm to
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I apologize. I havent done my research. I've had a long day of BBQing and liquor consumption. It's about time for bed.


Lol. No worries! Sounds like you celebrated your freedom with gusto!
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
5704 posts
Posted on 7/4/21 at 9:30 pm to
At least it’s not a mRNA vaccine from China and Academy of Military Science of the Chinese People's Liberation Army.

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/mexico-start-phase-iii-clinical-trials-chinas-walvax-covid-vaccine-2021-05-11/

Posted by Vote4MikeAck504
Go Cocks!
Member since Mar 2019
3098 posts
Posted on 7/4/21 at 11:50 pm to
There are way more instances of adverse reactions to these vaccines than is being publicized—shocker, I know—by the media or is being admitted to by our nationally appointed “health care professionals.”
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27898 posts
Posted on 7/5/21 at 1:41 am to
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You know the creator of mRNA vaccines is a women and she created it 25 years ago?

Yeah, and Elizabeth Holmes was touted as having done, what was it again? Dont believe everything youre told is truth, in this hyped up communist environment .

So your gal supposedly started the mRNA research 25 years ago. That means around 1995, amirite? So where did I get this link to a conference presentation way back in 1988, attributed to Dr Robert Malone at the Salk Institute? Thats like 33 years ago? Right?
quote:

A novel approach to study packaging of retroviral RNA by RNA transfection (Abstract). RW Malone, P. Felgner, I. Verma. RNA Tumor Viruses, May 17-18, 1988. Cold Spring Harbor

LINK
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
19239 posts
Posted on 7/5/21 at 6:43 am to

I keep wondering how many microchips I may have received getting the last dose in the vial.
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