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re: Creator of mRNA technology speaks out on vaccines

Posted on 7/4/21 at 10:54 am to
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 7/4/21 at 10:54 am to
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Yep.



I was doing a literature review for this project, and one paper described obesity as the real pandemic, and I have to say I agree. Just insane we've let more than 35% of this country become like this.
Posted by InfoWarsSCarolina
Member since May 2021
9 posts
Posted on 7/4/21 at 11:01 am to
great post sir. The vaccine zombies hopefully will begin to see that they have been lied to and harmed. But nothing they can do because big pharma is protected against liability thanks to our buffoons in congress who were bribed by big pharma.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
129531 posts
Posted on 7/4/21 at 11:17 am to
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Just insane we've let more than 35% of this country become like this.


Not only allowed it but now encouraging it saying fat is beautiful.

Also actively enabling mental illness
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
59467 posts
Posted on 7/4/21 at 11:18 am to
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this concern about long-term side effects. Reputable virologists have discounted this theory yet anti-vaccine fear mongers have continued to spread it.


Like Fauci? I mean, he’s been right and consistent the whole time.
Posted by adamau
Member since Oct 2020
4240 posts
Posted on 7/4/21 at 11:31 am to
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Also way too many selfish people trying to protect themselves by vaccinating everyone


I keep wondering. If a person has gotten the vaccine for themselves, then what in the actual frick does it matter whether someone else does or not. You chose to get it to protect...YOU...and if you believe it actually works YOU should be just fine.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
15970 posts
Posted on 7/4/21 at 11:33 am to
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I think the biggest lie spread by anti-vaxers is this concern about long-term side effects.


It has now been close to or a year or longer since people were given the mRNA vaccines in the trials and there haven't been any reports of long term effects. How long is long enough to satisfy people with the long-term side effect argument.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
39193 posts
Posted on 7/4/21 at 11:53 am to
The Democratic Party is a death cult.
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
7755 posts
Posted on 7/4/21 at 11:53 am to
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how long to satisfy long term side effect argument


5 - 10 years.
Just like other drugs on the market.

If you feel you're at risk, get vaccine.
Im not. So, I'll wait.
Posted by bgtiger
Prairieville
Member since Dec 2004
11923 posts
Posted on 7/4/21 at 12:11 pm to
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a year or longer since people were given the mRNA vaccines in the trials and there haven't been any reports of long term effects.


Lol
Posted by frequent flyer
USA
Member since Jul 2021
3383 posts
Posted on 7/4/21 at 12:22 pm to
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Dr. Malone spoke out against the risks of vaccinations for children and young adults. His video has been removed by YouTube. He is the inventor of the mRNA technology used by Pfizer and Moderna to create their vaccines.



I'm a firm believer that ANYONE who is at risk (or works with/lives with someone who is at risk) definitely needs to get one of the vaccines. There's a risk to any vaccine, but that's far outweighed by the risk of Covid 19 in some population groups.

But the risk/reward payoff doesn't make sense for younger people. I don't think the vaccine is ideal for people under 25 who don't have any underlying medical conditions, don't smoke, and don't live with anyone who is at risk.
Posted by SouthernStyled
Member since Apr 2021
1307 posts
Posted on 7/4/21 at 12:29 pm to
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If this is really true, this is more alarming than just the information.



Legit medical Information should not be diseeminated via Youtube in the first place.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36439 posts
Posted on 7/4/21 at 12:36 pm to
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Just insane we've let more than 35% of this country become like this.


We've made calories really cheap and so much work has shifted to mental vs physical labor. It's crazy we haven't done more because of the health impacts but we can't get this country to agree on doing much of anything as one unit.

The geographical advantages that make America a superpower also make it really easy to get fat is my point.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
9604 posts
Posted on 7/4/21 at 12:42 pm to
Was youtube removing videos about concerns of fast tracking of vaccine & similar before election?

This vaccine was first success for mRNA and not first attempt. Throw in first human vaccines for a coronavirus after ditching efforts during administrations of the prior two Presidents before Trump.

This is why it is completely ridiculous to lump in people with concerns about mRNA and coronavirus vaccines with the true antivaxers and also anti-science, and I say that from a “fully” vaccinated household and still get the concerns regardless of what we decided. I still have some afterwards.

Big Tech and Big Media companies need to be broken up. They not only control entire message, but they are also aided with power & message (if not manipulated at times) by multi billionaire activists running even larger activist hedge/investment funds including ones controlled in various manners by a certain country that has seen us as their main enemy since Korean War.
This post was edited on 7/4/21 at 1:51 pm
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11315 posts
Posted on 7/4/21 at 12:51 pm to
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Also way too many selfish people trying to protect themselves by vaccinating everyone


It boils down to a simple and uneasy truth

Not everyone is equal nor should they be treated equal (ponder this before responding emotionally)

The vaccine approach assumes we are equal, all at risk, etc...
The pharma /biotech lobby is more than happy to reinforce this logic

The selective strategy (the correct one) is not politically correct/convenient at the moment

https://www.medpagetoday.com/opinion/second-opinions/93340

quote:

CDC's All-or-Nothing Approach to Teen COVID Vaccination Is All Wrong — The agency should revisit its latest guidance to maximize benefits and minimize risks

by Vinay Prasad, MD, MPH, Ramin Farzaneh-Far, MD, Wes Pegden, PhD, Venk Murthy, MD, PhD, Amy Beck, MD, MPH June 29, 2021
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11315 posts
Posted on 7/4/21 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

. I think the biggest lie spread by anti-vaxers is this concern about long-term side effects.



Unknown unknowns bruh...

Most anti-new experimental biotech (but ok with prior vaccination schedule folks) are:

Weary of known knowns (speed to market)
Fearful of known unknowns
Steadfastly opposed to the risk of unknown unknowns (the risk benefit ratio favors holding your ground if you are in a low risk group despite the accentuated fear mongering from a dishonest media in the background of hyperpartisan politics...)
Posted by Bonkers119
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2015
11689 posts
Posted on 7/4/21 at 1:46 pm to
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I’ve been told by many here that I’m stupid for not getting the vaccine.


Well they’re right.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
59467 posts
Posted on 7/4/21 at 1:59 pm to
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Well they’re right.


See, this right here. I’m no anti-vax fear monger. If you choose to get it, I have nothing negative to say about you at all. Please refrain from saying negative things about me because I choose not to get it.
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 7/4/21 at 2:21 pm to
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I'll be stupid with you.


We haven't died yet
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
19522 posts
Posted on 7/4/21 at 2:28 pm to
People get blinded by dumb shite when it comes to this.

Just the sheer speed at which they spit the shots out should scare people

The fact that you can get money and prizes for getting a shot should scare people

The fact that JBE didn’t even talk about current events and instead make a video for making sure you get the vaccine before the holiday should scare people
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
10137 posts
Posted on 7/4/21 at 3:55 pm to
quote:

It’s crazy how this vaccine has just absolutely ruined some of you people. Take it or don’t. And move on with your life.

Perhaps if people would stop pushing it on citizens.
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