re: Crazy to think when the Pyramids were built

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Growing season - stay on farm and grow your crops

Harvesting season - harvest your crops and prepare area for flood

Flooding season - travel into city, sell crops and other goods, possibly get conscripted into government service to build a monument, bridge, dam, etc…

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This would've taken all of the "free" citizens of Egypt, I don't think they would let the prisoners of war work with the food. This is a decent take of a harvest season for any agrarian society, but not specific enough for Egyptian culture imo.

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Why were they willing to do this?
1. They believed (or at least were told to believe) that the pharaoh was a literal god on earth who would be an actual god upon his death. Doing work for a god was a good way to gain favor and prosperity for your family

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Yes but the Pharaoh didn't supersede the Pantheon. They had other gods for this. The pharaoh led cultural interpretation and was the avatar of the gods. This is misconstrued by most western scholars.

Also, this is a civilization whose citizens were seen as farm animals. Where are the graveyards for the serf class of Egypt? They were highly pagan in their religious practice, hence why the organs are removed and vaulted separate from the body.

No offense, but your take sounds like it comes from Western teachings and is more propaganda than anything. Even the way it's presented doesn't line up with what we culturally know about Egypt. The whole take seems whitewashed from the hard truths of the time.

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This system was unsustainable and is why the commoners eventually rebelled leading to the so called intermediate period of turmoil (a historical way of saying we don’t know what happened in this period because records didn’t survive/haven’t been discovered). Eventually this period of turmoil gave way to the Middle Kingdom which still had god king pharaohs but they didn’t have quite as much power over everyday life.

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Probably more of a natural disaster scenario. Archives are usually lost even today by only natural disasters. Or Jewish lightning.

The takes just seem like they are from a cue card, I think the perspective stated is a quick glance instead of an actual understanding of the times.

Here’s one: Stegosaurus and T-Rex were farther apart than T-Rex and Peej.

Dude what are you even talking about?
I never said prisoners of war worked with the food or that the pharaoh was more important than the other gods where did you come up with that?

This isn’t my take this is literally the way that it happened according to historians

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The takes just seem like they are from a cue card, I think the perspective stated is a quick glance instead of an actual understanding of the times.

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My “takes” are from research, textbook, college curriculums, phd papers, and my own years teaching an overview of the subject

Sounds like you just don’t believe what historians say happened, don’t go around acting like I’m forming some “westernized opinion”

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No.

I believe the last mammoths died 10000 or so years ago.

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So the Romans looked back to them as we do to the Romans

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Romans is definitely helping to erect modern day structures.

They were built before the last cataclysm that hit ~12000 years ago

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hometownhero89

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Lol I literally just went to Google and pulled up a few articles to support what I was saying sorry I didn’t cross reference well enough for you

Yes obviously my takes were at a low level it’s a fricking sports message board not historum, if I typed out an in depth dissertation nobody would read it because nobody cares.

I was just pointing out basic reasons the Egyptians in the old kingdom were capable of building such complex structures I wasn’t preparing a class for doctorate studies

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I do not think you are teaching college curriculums on ancient Egypt in whatever grade school you teach at.

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Well you’re wrong but okay man, sorry my comment on this message board wasn’t in depth enough for you expert historian over there. I’m sure the documentary you watched was very well done


ETA: Also I never said the Egyptians didn’t have slaves I said most of the people working on the pyramids were not slaves

Came here to say this. When I first learned that, I was pretty shocked

Welcome to the woo, Timmy.

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They were built over 2000 years before the Romans. So the Romans looked back to them as we do to the Romans

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Book of Enoch explains all this perfectly. When the angels chose to lay with the daughters of men. Their offspring were the "giants" in the Old Testament. The Book of Enoch goes much more into detail about the sudden rise of civilization and structures after this occurred. It's an odd thing that archeologists and historians are intrigued by to say the least. Only other explanation is aliens lol.