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re: Crazy to think when the Pyramids were built

Posted on 2/8/22 at 12:17 pm to
Posted by Michael T. Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 2/8/22 at 12:17 pm to
The pyramids were not built by slaves. The pharaohs did not believe slaves were worthy of constructing their tombs for the afterlife.

It was extremely surreal to stand in the ruins of a temple 1,500 years old in Egypt, only to realize it was built on the ruins of a temple 3,000 years old.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 2/8/22 at 12:23 pm to
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Romans had running water, heated floors,
running water and heated floors like we have space travel..
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transportation systems, road technology etc.
its not like the Egyptians were walking every where. they had "roads"

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Not sure we're really that far ahead of the classical period.

mass manufacturing was the turn in technology. No civilization can hold a candle to what that did for advancement. Egypt and Rome were one in the same. They accomplished amazing things through pure man power. Now 1 guy in a tractor can do in a day, what took 50 men a week to do.
This post was edited on 2/8/22 at 4:59 pm
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
32638 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 12:24 pm to
Why did you respond to me and say what I already said about slaves not building the pyramids?
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
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Posted on 2/8/22 at 12:24 pm to

The Romans probably had no idea exactly how old the pyramids were.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 2/8/22 at 12:30 pm to
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Not sure we're really that far ahead of the classical period.
Posted by Michael T. Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2004
8634 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 1:12 pm to
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Why did you respond to me and say what I already said about slaves not building the pyramids?


Was likely replying to an earlier post but just hit reply on the most recent post in the thread. Sorry for the confusion.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/8/22 at 1:16 pm to
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I know most academics/Egyptologists think he's a crackpot, but I really enjoyed the first Rogan podcast with Graham Hancock. That's the only episode I listened to almost the whole thing.

I love how you made this exact same quote in this thread twice, 4 years apart

This post was edited on 2/8/22 at 1:17 pm
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
62293 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 1:20 pm to
Ha, I didn't see it was an old thread. ETA, the pod was good until they started talking about drugs.
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Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
451055 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 1:21 pm to
Once I did I re-read it and within that reading, I saw your new post with "crackpot" used again.

I have to be careful saying this b/c LSU Coyote has ruined it, but Randall Carlson is awesome.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
57826 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 1:22 pm to
That’s my favorite JRE too

I choose to ignore the critics and ride with GH
Posted by HotTakes
Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 2/8/22 at 1:27 pm to
Rogan podcast with Jimmy Coresstti
Mind blowing facts about how tight the gaps between stones were

This podcast covered the building of the pyramids, and the tolerances they had back then.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
17977 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 2:02 pm to
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When Bonaparte visited Giza during his Nile expedition of 1798 (the story goes), he determined to spend a night alone inside the King’s Chamber, the granite-lined vault that lies precisely in the centre of the pyramid. This chamber is generally acknowledged as the spot where Khufu, the most powerful ruler of Egypt’s Old Kingdom (c.2690-2180 BC), was interred for all eternity, and it still contains the remains of Pharaoh’s sarcophagus—a fractured mass of red stone that is said to ring like a bell when struck.

Having ventured alone into the pyramid’s forbidding interior and navigated its cramped passages armed with nothing but a guttering candle, it's said that Napoleon emerged the next morning white and shaken, and thenceforth refused to answer any questions about what had befallen him that night. Not until 23 years later, as he lay on his death bed, did the emperor at last consent to talk about his experience. Hauling himself painfully upright, he began to speak—only to halt almost immediately with the words you quoted: “Oh, what’s the use. You’d never believe me.”


What is that from? I was actually going to ask the Book Board this week for a good book on Napoleon
Posted by hometownhero89
Center of the Earth
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 2/8/22 at 2:19 pm to
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While some prisoners and slaves would’ve worked on the pyramids most people who worked on them were paid craftsmen and Egyptian local farmers who came to Giza to work during the yearly flooding period of the Nile



Are the hieroglyphs for this work order on the wall or did I miss it? Doesn't sound realistic, the pows and slave workforce were free, they would've used that first.
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9735 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 2:25 pm to
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The Romans probably had no idea exactly how old the pyramids were.


Do we know for certain?
Posted by razorbackfan4life
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2011
8746 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 2:32 pm to
Concrete..

I'll never believe they transported those stones one by one.

Not to mention they didn't have the tools necessary to cut said stones perfectly.
This post was edited on 2/8/22 at 2:34 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 2/8/22 at 2:47 pm to
Not sure. I found it on reddit
Posted by MBclass83
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 2/8/22 at 2:53 pm to
So how were the pyramids built?


Very slowly.
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
32638 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 2:56 pm to
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Are the hieroglyphs for this work order on the wall or did I miss it? Doesn't sound realistic, the pows and slave workforce were free, they would've used that first.

no it’s called archaeology and historical research. This is how the Egyptian society worked in the old kingdom

Growing season - stay on farm and grow your crops

Harvesting season - harvest your crops and prepare area for flood

Flooding season - travel into city, sell crops and other goods, possibly get conscripted into government service to build a monument, bridge, dam, etc…

Why were they willing to do this?
1. They believed (or at least were told to believe) that the pharaoh was a literal god on earth who would be an actual god upon his death. Doing work for a god was a good way to gain favor and prosperity for your family

2. The pharaohs were absolute dictators, they controlled all aspects of society and you could face severe punishment for you and your family if you did not comply


This system was unsustainable and is why the commoners eventually rebelled leading to the so called intermediate period of turmoil (a historical way of saying we don’t know what happened in this period because records didn’t survive/haven’t been discovered). Eventually this period of turmoil gave way to the Middle Kingdom which still had god king pharaohs but they didn’t have quite as much power over everyday life.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
60339 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 2:58 pm to
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Dwarka is likely older...

That's still very much in the air. Plus, just because they can prove human habitation doesn't mean they had megalithic building. Human habitation can be found in a lot of places that later became cities, even if the sites had been abandoned for thousands of years.

Also, Gobekli Tepe isn't the oldest site of Tas Tepeler and other Turkish sites. There's another one which is about 1000 years older, farther East, and a recently discovered cave site that dates to 16,500 years ago.

We are closer to the Sumerians and Mesopotamians than they are to Tas Tepeler.
This post was edited on 2/8/22 at 4:23 pm
Posted by bbarras85
Member since Jul 2021
2182 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 3:08 pm to
I listened to a comedian talk about the pyramids being built by Mexicans the other day. He had valid points.

1. The aliens conspiracy theorists talk about were indeed illegal aliens

2. Aren't there pyramid style structures in Mexico already (mayans)??
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