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re: Could you kill an adult Timber Wolf if given a chokehold “head start”?

Posted on 4/24/26 at 7:28 am to
Posted by HogBalls
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 7:28 am to
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Zero chance he could hold on. The wolf would have his head out and gnawing on that man in about 3 seconds


This is what I tell him and that wrestling with his Boxer Is giving him a false sense of confidence
This post was edited on 4/24/26 at 7:30 am
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 8:05 am to
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eastern wolf is far more like a coyote than it is an actual gray wolf.
timber wolf and gray wolf are the same thing.

They get up to 170 lbs and a make is often 150 lbs and are hyper mobile, no one is holding one down in a chokehold.
This post was edited on 4/24/26 at 8:07 am
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
17240 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 8:09 am to
I once saw a documentary on one of the cable channels that showed that wolved, real actua wolves, in the wild, like in Canada and Alaska are friendly if not threatened by a human. They showed some wildlife officials, not some weird hippies, real forest ranger guys, parachuting down and wolves after a while would come out and observe but never approach or attack.

I thought they were aggressive (like Bears) but, well, it didn't look like it in this documentary. And yes, they are larger than people think, like humungous German Sheppard size.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111398 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 8:10 am to
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timber wolf and gray wolf are the same thing.
No they are not. Go to Alberta or Wyoming etc and say timber wolf and they will look at you like you are insane

A timber wolf is the eastern wolf that hands around the MN regions up into Canada there
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 8:13 am to
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gray wolf is 100% not a timber wolf
they are both Canis lupus. Genetically identical They name gray or timber are synonymous

Easterns are Camus lycaon and are not timber wolves.

Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 8:13 am to
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timber wolf is the eastern wolf that hands around the MN regions up into Canada there
scientifically incorrect.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 8:14 am to
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they are not. Go to Alberta or Wyoming etc and say timber wolf and they will look at you like you are insane
people say a lot of dumb things then others repeat them. It happens.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 8:15 am to
Most consider the timber wolf to actually be a cross breed of the original gray wolf and a coyote

You want to get “scientific” there is no such thing as a timber wolf. Its a colloquial term. But the only people that have wolves as inhabitants that call their wolves timber wolves are those people that have Eastern timber wolves which are a cross of the gray wolf and coyote


You are not going to see that term in Wyoming or Montana or Alberta etc where you see the large gray wolf
This post was edited on 4/24/26 at 8:19 am
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 8:18 am to
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Most consider the timber wolf to actually be a cross breed of the original gray wolf and a coyote
and most are wrong.

Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111398 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 8:20 am to
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and most are wrong.
dude it’s almost settled the Eastern Timberwolf is a cross of a gray and a coyote. Let’s see your work that refutes that

And once again, scientifically, it’s officially not even called canis lupus, it’s Canis lycaon or Canis lupus lycaon
This post was edited on 4/24/26 at 8:23 am
Posted by Ol boy
Member since Oct 2018
4197 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 8:23 am to
My thoughts are your friend has never been around any wild animals of any size or even worked livestock that didn’t want to be worked.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 8:26 am to
It comes down to which male and which wolf you choose

A physically fit 170lb plus male will dominate a 70-80 lb wolf if he gets to start with the wolf in a headlock/his legs wrapped around it rear naked style

That’s too much strength and weight and vulnerable position for the smaller wolf

A large wolf or a weak male and it’s the opposite

One thing that gets overlooked in these threads always is how badass and awesome humans are in life or death situations. When it comes down to that we are “wild animals “ too
This post was edited on 4/24/26 at 8:31 am
Posted by Radio One
On the banks of the Wabash
Member since Sep 2023
6105 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 8:35 am to
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Well easily, because I would start with my legs choking him. Basically a 69 choke hold so I could stick a finger in his arse as soon as we started. Put yourself in his paws. Some 200 lb dude is thigh choking you whilst he sticks a finger in your arse. Game. Set. Match.



I’ll win by violating the wolf.

Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84697 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 11:01 am to
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Centrifugal force keeps their head away from you, makes them extremely dizzy, and you then smack their head on a pole, corner of a house, car tire, etc repeatedly while spinning until they're done.

You’ve given this thought before
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
29822 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 12:43 pm to
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Easily….just don’t let go!




ETA: I have spent a considerable amount of time dealing with livestock


Me too.

And I decided to restrain my livestock guardian dog one time while the vet gave him a shot.

Nope. After getting scratched, bit, and seeing the old vet horrified at my willingness to choke the shite out of him to keep him still, she said she wasn't giving him the shot. I told him to sit, grabbed the needle, gave him the shot, and he was fine with it.

This was just a 200lb dog that didn't want to be restrained. A wolf that wanted to kill you? Nope.

If I can choose to be holding both hind legs however... Wolfie is going to learn about momentum and what being hit with the earth feels like.
Posted by Banned
Member since Feb 2026
331 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 12:54 pm to
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A trained human who understands how to use their body weight properly will always have a punchers chance against a much lighter animal. Even in a win, I predict a lengthy hospital stay, but where there is a will, there is a way.


I know a chimpanzee who wants a word with you...
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
3293 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 1:13 pm to
You're both right on all points except for when you try to exclude. It's an all inclusive collequal term, but is used more often in specific regions (like forested areas) than others.
Posted by SemperFiDawg
Member since Sep 2014
4337 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 1:52 pm to
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What are your thoughts?


Very strange pillow talk.
This post was edited on 4/24/26 at 1:54 pm
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