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re: Could you kill an adult Timber Wolf if given a chokehold “head start”?
Posted on 4/24/26 at 7:28 am to Relham10
Posted on 4/24/26 at 7:28 am to Relham10
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Zero chance he could hold on. The wolf would have his head out and gnawing on that man in about 3 seconds
This is what I tell him and that wrestling with his Boxer Is giving him a false sense of confidence
This post was edited on 4/24/26 at 7:30 am
Posted on 4/24/26 at 8:05 am to lsupride87
quote:timber wolf and gray wolf are the same thing.
eastern wolf is far more like a coyote than it is an actual gray wolf.
They get up to 170 lbs and a make is often 150 lbs and are hyper mobile, no one is holding one down in a chokehold.
This post was edited on 4/24/26 at 8:07 am
Posted on 4/24/26 at 8:09 am to HogBalls
I once saw a documentary on one of the cable channels that showed that wolved, real actua wolves, in the wild, like in Canada and Alaska are friendly if not threatened by a human. They showed some wildlife officials, not some weird hippies, real forest ranger guys, parachuting down and wolves after a while would come out and observe but never approach or attack.
I thought they were aggressive (like Bears) but, well, it didn't look like it in this documentary. And yes, they are larger than people think, like humungous German Sheppard size.
I thought they were aggressive (like Bears) but, well, it didn't look like it in this documentary. And yes, they are larger than people think, like humungous German Sheppard size.
Posted on 4/24/26 at 8:10 am to tigerfoot
quote:No they are not. Go to Alberta or Wyoming etc and say timber wolf and they will look at you like you are insane
timber wolf and gray wolf are the same thing.
A timber wolf is the eastern wolf that hands around the MN regions up into Canada there
Posted on 4/24/26 at 8:13 am to lsupride87
quote:they are both Canis lupus. Genetically identical They name gray or timber are synonymous
gray wolf is 100% not a timber wolf
Easterns are Camus lycaon and are not timber wolves.
Posted on 4/24/26 at 8:13 am to lsupride87
quote:scientifically incorrect.
timber wolf is the eastern wolf that hands around the MN regions up into Canada there
Posted on 4/24/26 at 8:14 am to lsupride87
quote:people say a lot of dumb things then others repeat them. It happens.
they are not. Go to Alberta or Wyoming etc and say timber wolf and they will look at you like you are insane
Posted on 4/24/26 at 8:15 am to tigerfoot
Most consider the timber wolf to actually be a cross breed of the original gray wolf and a coyote
You want to get “scientific” there is no such thing as a timber wolf. Its a colloquial term. But the only people that have wolves as inhabitants that call their wolves timber wolves are those people that have Eastern timber wolves which are a cross of the gray wolf and coyote
You are not going to see that term in Wyoming or Montana or Alberta etc where you see the large gray wolf
You want to get “scientific” there is no such thing as a timber wolf. Its a colloquial term. But the only people that have wolves as inhabitants that call their wolves timber wolves are those people that have Eastern timber wolves which are a cross of the gray wolf and coyote
You are not going to see that term in Wyoming or Montana or Alberta etc where you see the large gray wolf
This post was edited on 4/24/26 at 8:19 am
Posted on 4/24/26 at 8:18 am to lsupride87
quote:and most are wrong.
Most consider the timber wolf to actually be a cross breed of the original gray wolf and a coyote
Posted on 4/24/26 at 8:20 am to tigerfoot
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and most are wrong.
And once again, scientifically, it’s officially not even called canis lupus, it’s Canis lycaon or Canis lupus lycaon
This post was edited on 4/24/26 at 8:23 am
Posted on 4/24/26 at 8:23 am to HogBalls
My thoughts are your friend has never been around any wild animals of any size or even worked livestock that didn’t want to be worked.
Posted on 4/24/26 at 8:26 am to Ol boy
It comes down to which male and which wolf you choose
A physically fit 170lb plus male will dominate a 70-80 lb wolf if he gets to start with the wolf in a headlock/his legs wrapped around it rear naked style
That’s too much strength and weight and vulnerable position for the smaller wolf
A large wolf or a weak male and it’s the opposite
One thing that gets overlooked in these threads always is how badass and awesome humans are in life or death situations. When it comes down to that we are “wild animals “ too
A physically fit 170lb plus male will dominate a 70-80 lb wolf if he gets to start with the wolf in a headlock/his legs wrapped around it rear naked style
That’s too much strength and weight and vulnerable position for the smaller wolf
A large wolf or a weak male and it’s the opposite
One thing that gets overlooked in these threads always is how badass and awesome humans are in life or death situations. When it comes down to that we are “wild animals “ too
This post was edited on 4/24/26 at 8:31 am
Posted on 4/24/26 at 8:35 am to BoogaBear
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Well easily, because I would start with my legs choking him. Basically a 69 choke hold so I could stick a finger in his arse as soon as we started. Put yourself in his paws. Some 200 lb dude is thigh choking you whilst he sticks a finger in your arse. Game. Set. Match.
I’ll win by violating the wolf.
Posted on 4/24/26 at 11:01 am to Tangineck
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Centrifugal force keeps their head away from you, makes them extremely dizzy, and you then smack their head on a pole, corner of a house, car tire, etc repeatedly while spinning until they're done.
You’ve given this thought before
Posted on 4/24/26 at 12:43 pm to Spankum
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Easily….just don’t let go!
ETA: I have spent a considerable amount of time dealing with livestock
Me too.
And I decided to restrain my livestock guardian dog one time while the vet gave him a shot.
Nope. After getting scratched, bit, and seeing the old vet horrified at my willingness to choke the shite out of him to keep him still, she said she wasn't giving him the shot. I told him to sit, grabbed the needle, gave him the shot, and he was fine with it.
This was just a 200lb dog that didn't want to be restrained. A wolf that wanted to kill you? Nope.
If I can choose to be holding both hind legs however... Wolfie is going to learn about momentum and what being hit with the earth feels like.
Posted on 4/24/26 at 12:54 pm to ATrillionaire
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A trained human who understands how to use their body weight properly will always have a punchers chance against a much lighter animal. Even in a win, I predict a lengthy hospital stay, but where there is a will, there is a way.
I know a chimpanzee who wants a word with you...
Posted on 4/24/26 at 1:13 pm to lsupride87
You're both right on all points except for when you try to exclude. It's an all inclusive collequal term, but is used more often in specific regions (like forested areas) than others.
Posted on 4/24/26 at 1:52 pm to HogBalls
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What are your thoughts?
Very strange pillow talk.
This post was edited on 4/24/26 at 1:54 pm
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