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re: Cost Of Life-Saving EpiPen Injectors Soars To $700 A Set

Posted on 8/22/16 at 1:33 pm to
Posted by yoga girl
Member since Dec 2015
3691 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 1:33 pm to
The Chavez price controls were rendered ineffective due to corruption. They were also general, rather than targeted, price controls.

Arguing with some of you is like my arguments with Dad. Deep down he knows I make some good points, but he'll never acknowledge them.
This post was edited on 8/22/16 at 1:35 pm
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
23349 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 1:34 pm to
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So, the parents of children with allergies should be required to support Mylan's portfolio?


yes
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27871 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

Does that include R&D or literally the cost to make that EpiPen?



R&D??

On adrenalin? That medication has been in existence since 1900. Not THE 1900's. 1900.

The pen itself has changed minimally over the decade or two I've been a nurse.
Posted by yoga girl
Member since Dec 2015
3691 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 1:36 pm to
quote:

R&D??

On adrenalin? That medication has been in existence since 1900. Not THE 1900's. 1900.

The pen itself has changed minimally over the decade or two I've been a nurse.


That was a knockout punch. I'm continually amazed at the excuses some posters will make to justify obscene profit taking and wealth making.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122525 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 1:36 pm to
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This doesn't seem unreasonable


A drug that once sold for $100 now selling for $700 doesn't sound unreasonable? Unless the cost of production went up or supply is low, there is no reason for that to cost $700..
Posted by SidewalkDawg
Chair
Member since Nov 2012
10307 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 1:37 pm to
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That was a knockout punch. I'm continually amazed at the excuses some posters will make to justify obscene profit taking and wealth making.


Why is there no competition again?
Posted by yoga girl
Member since Dec 2015
3691 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 1:37 pm to
The apologists for evil business practices are getting hammered.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70176 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 1:39 pm to
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I'm continually amazed at the excuses some posters will make to justify obscene profit taking and wealth making.


so if you have a product that you can sell for $100 and the market says you can sell it for $700 you wouldn't sell it for that?
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41812 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

The apologists for evil business practices are getting hammered.


The fact you can't see we are criticizing evil government practices AND business practices is telling.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122525 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 1:40 pm to
quote:

The apologists for evil business practices are getting hammered.


I don't think there is a code of ethics when it comes to pharmaceutical companies
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
46669 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 1:41 pm to
I'm sure this is similar to the Martin Shkreli scandal where the news agencies only reported a quarter of the story. I'd be shocked if actual parents are paying $700 for an epipen.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 1:41 pm to
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I'm continually amazed at the excuses some posters will make to justify obscene profit taking and wealth making.


Answer this, why isn't there more competition? If there was more competition, what would happen to the prices?

Who's justifying? Most people are telling you that our current regulations are prohibitive to competition which keeps prices high.
Posted by yoga girl
Member since Dec 2015
3691 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 1:41 pm to
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The fact you can't see we are criticizing evil government practices AND business practices is telling.


You never did address why you thought my posts were ironic.

I don't see a lot of criticism of the business practice from your side.
Posted by yoga girl
Member since Dec 2015
3691 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 1:44 pm to
quote:


so if you have a product that you can sell for $100 and the market says you can sell it for $700 you wouldn't sell it for that?


No. I am satisfied with my income. I don't need to pillage other people.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
46669 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 1:44 pm to
Can I please get your .02 on Martin Shkreli?
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 1:45 pm to
so you aren't going to answer the question about why isn't there any competition.

Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122525 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 1:45 pm to
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Answer this, why isn't there more competition? If there was more competition, what would happen to the prices?


I don't that much when it comes to the pharmaceutical business, but if a company has a patent on a specific medication, until it expires isn't kind of hard for them to have competitors?

Also, I know pharmaceuticals are in the top 3 when it comes to most money spent on lobbyist.. Thats just more of a FYI.
Posted by yoga girl
Member since Dec 2015
3691 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 1:47 pm to
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Can I please get your .02 on Martin Shkreli?


Hopefully, he'll be in jail soon for securities fraud (he ought to go to jail for trying to give Kanye West $15m for that scumbag's album).
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35515 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 1:48 pm to
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This is outrageous. Kind of kills the argument that capitalistic businesses don't need strict government regulation.


No. It kills the argument for government-granted/enforced monopolies
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41812 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 1:48 pm to
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You never did address why you thought my posts were ironic


Never saw your response.

The irony is that you are criticizing the as you put it:

"manipulative, uber wealthy market manipulators.", however are perfectly fine trusting a person who is part of the group that allows and even promotes the manipulation to happen.

quote:

I don't see a lot of criticism of the business practice from your side.

I mean, I don't know how much more I can criticize a business practice after accusing it of cronyism and using government to enable a monopolistic system that puts us the predicament we have. The issue is that you only see one option to solve the issue, more government, banking on the slim chance that this time, they won't be susceptible to cronyism again. Where as "my side" sees that if you open up competition, you can actual punish businesses for these types of practices.
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