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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***
Posted on 4/3/20 at 4:17 pm to WaydownSouth
Posted on 4/3/20 at 4:17 pm to WaydownSouth
Gains goblins dude
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Posted on 4/3/20 at 4:18 pm to Lsut81
This logic only works until you figure out just how many Americans have pre-existing conditions.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 4:30 pm to Scruffy
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Flattening the curve does not speed up our return to normalcy.
That doesn’t mean it is the incorrect course of action, but people need to understand that concept and we need to address that accordingly.
If flattening the curve means that we have to stay shutdown for 2-3 months, people need to understand the ramifications of that.
What do you see as the ramifications? I mean that as an honest question as you seem to be an objective, reasonable person. I have my thoughts but I'm curious as to what you think.
And all that was said was to "flatten the curve" to not overwhelm the medical system". This talk of any longer than April is going to send me to the nut house. Am I'm not close to kidding.
This post was edited on 4/3/20 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 4/3/20 at 4:30 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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NOT ALLOWED
I didn’t say they weren’t allowed, they can take care of themselves. They can choose to go out or not.
Everyone should be allowed to accept responsibility for themselves.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 4:32 pm to Lsut81
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Everyone should be allowed to accept responsibility for themselves.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 4:32 pm to BRIllini07
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This logic only works until you figure out just how many Americans have pre-existing conditions.
Personal responsibility... that’s on them. Each individual should know where they stand in regards to health and do what they need to do.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 4:33 pm to Lsut81
I'm not sure who said it today (Rush maybe?) but they said it's not money vs lives. It's to the point of lives vs lives. There's some truth to that.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 4:33 pm to Commander Data
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Commander Data
Glad things seem to be going well for you and I hope you get home soon.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 4:34 pm to Lsut81
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Everyone should be allowed to accept responsibility for themselves.
So will those pre-existing condition people clogging up healthcare resources and ICU beds be compensating the non-covid people who have negative outcomes from a shortage of resources?
Posted on 4/3/20 at 4:37 pm to Lsut81
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Personal responsibility... that’s on them. Each individual should know where they stand in regards to health and do what they need to do.
so people are responsible for being born with asthma and diabetes? or getting say, rare genetic cancers? Wait I forgot, only fat people get this, nevermind.
This post was edited on 4/3/20 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 4/3/20 at 4:37 pm to tiger91
quote:Mass economic collapse.
What do you see as the ramifications?
Unemployment at levels above the peaks of the Great Depression.
Homelessness spiking to unheard of numbers.
And everything that goes along with that.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 4:37 pm to skullhawk
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He tweeted out some new bullshite chart and now saying Nola runs out of beds in May. They just keep moving the goalposts when their previous doomsday predictions don’t come close to happening.
On the one hand, the virus is spreading faster and to more people than expected. On the other, more resources arrive, which takes care of the immediate needs and pushes shortages further into the future.
We got 100 ventilators in today. Two days ago, Baton Rouge General announced that it was re-opening the critical care section of its Mid-City hospital, which had been closed for five years.
That's why the dates for when we run out of stuff keep getting pushed back.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 4:40 pm to REG861
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so people are responsible for being born with asthma and diabetes? or getting say, rare genetic cancers? Wait I forgot, only fat people get this, nevermind.
Yes they are... why would they not be?
Posted on 4/3/20 at 4:42 pm to Scruffy
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And everything that goes along with that.
Spike in suicides... the additional 5k due to the 2008 collapse will be child’s play.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 4:46 pm to Lsut81
Will Theranos have a small vial fast acting covid test?
Posted on 4/3/20 at 4:46 pm to Scruffy
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Mass economic collapse.
Unemployment at levels above the peaks of the Great Depression.
Homelessness spiking to unheard of numbers.
And everything that goes along with th
So based on the above thoughts about the ramifications of staying "closed" are you or are you not in favor of it? You're in the hospitals -- I'm not ... once the curve levels off, is it reasonable to open things back up?
I'm naive I guess .. I trusted that we would get through the rough patch/time period and then things would soften up restriction wise.
I would love to know (need to read) how this was handled in was it 1918? I mean of course things were very, very different but I still wonder.
Heard today someone say (I think it was Rush?) that it's not money vs lives ... it's now lives vs lives and I tend to agree.
This post was edited on 4/3/20 at 4:50 pm
Posted on 4/3/20 at 4:48 pm to tiger91
I've been in favor of the current shutdown/social isolation. But It can't go on indefinitely. We need to hear a rock solid plan on how we're going to start this bitch back up.
I'm fortunate, so far, that my job is not only considered essential, but the business I'm in is actually essential to what's going on. But a total economic collapse would change everything, and no one knows where the line is.
I'm fortunate, so far, that my job is not only considered essential, but the business I'm in is actually essential to what's going on. But a total economic collapse would change everything, and no one knows where the line is.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 4:48 pm to tiger91
quote:I am in favor of a middle ground between the two.
So based on the above thoughts about the ramifications of staying "closed" are you or are you not in favor of it?
People seem to be adamant about there only being 2 choices.
1. Shut it all down
2. Open it all back up
Find a workable area in the middle.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 4:49 pm to Scruffy
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Mass economic collapse. Unemployment at levels above the peaks of the Great Depression. Homelessness spiking to unheard of numbers. And everything that goes along with that.
hyperbole much?
Posted on 4/3/20 at 4:49 pm to Scruffy
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Find a workable area in the middle.
how do you know they won’t?
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