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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***
Posted on 3/27/20 at 9:19 am to Tiguar
Posted on 3/27/20 at 9:19 am to Tiguar
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this is one reason I don't really agree with waiting 3 days for a positive result before starting hydroxychloroquine for covid. it would be nice if we had an ubiquitous rapid diagnostic for this
Aytu Biosciences supposedly has a 10 minute test at point-of-contact that they developed and are trying to get distributed. They have approval in Mexico and Canada, and US is coming (or has already been FDA approved).
Disclaimer: I took a flier and have some shares
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Posted on 3/27/20 at 9:24 am to BRIllini07
They tried the best they could to isolate the infected from the healthy on the Diamond Princess. I'm sure that helped slow the spread. It's not like they tried to get everyone infected and only 20% ended up getting it.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 9:27 am to BRIllini07
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which was present on the ship 17 days after everyone left)
Does this mean that it was live and transmittable though? I saw someone question this but didn't see an answer?
Posted on 3/27/20 at 9:28 am to VABuckeye
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There's a crowd that downplays the death numbers because of the size of general populations.
There's also a crowd that stirs themselves into a frenzy because the "professionals" projected deaths to be in the hundreds of thousands, if not the millions.
Well, those same professionals are now walking that back and saying it's going to be magnitudes fewer than that original, very rough, first guess of a worst case scenario estimate.
What I find odd is the same people who quoted those professionals ad nauseum for weeks to make a point of how bad this was going to get, are now dismissing those same exact professionals now that they've given a much more positive outlook on the situation.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 9:30 am to RB10
I'm somewhere in the middle which is how I think things will shake out.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 9:31 am to VABuckeye
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I'm somewhere in the middle which is how I think things will shake out.
Somewhere in the middle for the US is a projection of about 800k deaths. That still seems extreme to me at this point.
ETA: You also have to consider the fact that the US set much more stringent restrictions than the UK initially. They were still toying with a herd immunity approach last week.
This post was edited on 3/27/20 at 9:34 am
Posted on 3/27/20 at 9:33 am to slacker00
Good point.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 9:34 am to RB10
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There's also a crowd that stirs themselves into a frenzy because the "professionals" projected deaths to be in the hundreds of thousands, if not the millions.
Well, those same professionals are now walking that back and saying it's going to be magnitudes fewer than that original, very rough, first guess of a worst case scenario estimate.
What I find odd is the same people who quoted those professionals ad nauseum for weeks to make a point of how bad this was going to get, are now dismissing those same exact professionals now that they've given a much more positive outlook on the situation.
I think the measures taken have GREATLY impacted these numbers. If we had done essentially nothing like we do for the flu, I could easily see hundreds of thousands of deaths.
I mean shite, Italy and Spain might hit 30,000 deaths themselves if this shite keeps going the way it is. And they're on lockdown going on 20 days now (at least in Italy).
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But I agree with your post.
This post was edited on 3/27/20 at 9:36 am
Posted on 3/27/20 at 9:37 am to TheCaterpillar
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I mean shite, Italy and Spain might hit 30,000 deaths themselves if this shite keeps going the way it is. And they're on lockdown going on 20 days now (at least in Italy).
The projections that were originally given were 500k for the UK alone. 1 to 1.6 million for the US. Again, these were worst case.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 9:38 am to TheCaterpillar
I think we're going to be fine FWIW. Just a few more weeks doing what we're doing and we'll be way out ahead of this thing.
I think by the end of April we see most of this and by the end of May we see all of this:
- Herd immunity will actually start to help (just a little bit at first and moreso for healthcare workers)
- Warm weather will help us out
- Testing will outpace demand
- Antibody testing will help us prioritize risk and help model the timeline of this thing (hopefully coming soon)
- There will be plenty of ventilators and PPE for hospitals
- There will be very effective antiviral treatments available for critically ill, which will reduce deaths
I think by the end of April we see most of this and by the end of May we see all of this:
- Herd immunity will actually start to help (just a little bit at first and moreso for healthcare workers)
- Warm weather will help us out
- Testing will outpace demand
- Antibody testing will help us prioritize risk and help model the timeline of this thing (hopefully coming soon)
- There will be plenty of ventilators and PPE for hospitals
- There will be very effective antiviral treatments available for critically ill, which will reduce deaths
Posted on 3/27/20 at 9:40 am to RB10
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The projections that were originally given were 500k for the UK alone. 1 to 1.6 million for the US. Again, these were worst case.
I am speaking to the lower end of the original projections of hundreds of thousands.
That is a realistic projection had we treated this just like the flu. Thankfully we did some things to slow it down big time. I'm in the boat that belies in a couple of weeks we should start to phase our economy back online or else "the cure will be worse than the virus".
Posted on 3/27/20 at 9:41 am to TheCaterpillar
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I think the measures taken have GREATLY impacted these numbers. If we had done essentially nothing like we do for the flu, I could easily see hundreds of thousands of deaths.
No. You see, I told this board that this would happen. When you assume the conclusion, then you can always justify it after it’s all said and done. Are you meaning to tell me that our poor efforts at social distancing reduced our deaths from 300k to 1k? No way.
This post was edited on 3/27/20 at 9:42 am
Posted on 3/27/20 at 9:41 am to RB10
The experts told us that we could be looking at the 4.5 million American deaths.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 9:42 am to TheCaterpillar
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I'm in the boat that belies in a couple of weeks we should start to phase our economy back online or else "the cure will be worse than the virus".
Posted on 3/27/20 at 9:46 am to SabiDojo
Pandora box is open now. Anytime someone in the world dies of something contagious, the mob will start demanding social distancing because "we saved millions of lives with covid"
Even though china flu is going to be around for years, once it falls out of the news cycle the mob will be on to the next crisis
Even though china flu is going to be around for years, once it falls out of the news cycle the mob will be on to the next crisis
Posted on 3/27/20 at 9:46 am to SabiDojo
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No. You see, I told this board that this would happen. When you assume the conclusion, then you can always justify it after it’s all said and done. Are you meaning to tell me that our poor efforts at social distancing reduced out deaths from 300k to 1k? No way.
Global deaths from 300k to 75k? Yes, likely.
We aren't even close to done with the death count either, which will go on until a vaccine is available. It will slow, thankfully.
Again, I think what we've done has been worth it (stimulus bill aside), but now we need to start to phase in the economy in a couple of weeks.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 9:46 am to SabiDojo
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The experts told us that we could be looking at the 4.5 million American deaths
I don't remember seeing that, but it's ridiculous.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 9:47 am to TheCaterpillar
A Care Act loan would ensure that I can keep the doors open for about 5-6 months with zero new business coming in. Of course, if the drop in new business was that dramatic I'd be closing up shop.
I have to think that a ton of small businesses are going to go the Care Act loan route. 2.5 months of payroll, health insurance premiums, rent and utilities that will be forgiven.
For a company to take a Care Act loan they must keep people on the payroll or rehire employees by the end of June. I'm not sure how the accountability will work but there will be reporting for sure to ensure that funds aren't misused so that the loan can be forgiven. A Care Act loan requires no collateral and no personal guarantee. Any company that wants funds beyond Care Act level will have to qualify under the normal, stricter guidelines which do require collateral and a personal gurantee.
Sorry for the business post in the thread but there has been a lot of talk about economic impact and there isn't a thread that really addresses the business impact.
I have to think that a ton of small businesses are going to go the Care Act loan route. 2.5 months of payroll, health insurance premiums, rent and utilities that will be forgiven.
For a company to take a Care Act loan they must keep people on the payroll or rehire employees by the end of June. I'm not sure how the accountability will work but there will be reporting for sure to ensure that funds aren't misused so that the loan can be forgiven. A Care Act loan requires no collateral and no personal guarantee. Any company that wants funds beyond Care Act level will have to qualify under the normal, stricter guidelines which do require collateral and a personal gurantee.
Sorry for the business post in the thread but there has been a lot of talk about economic impact and there isn't a thread that really addresses the business impact.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 9:48 am to RB10
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I don't remember seeing that, but it's ridiculous.
Yeah me either. I feel like I would've remembered if several epidemiology experts predicted 4.5 million US deaths.
That's wild.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 9:49 am to SabiDojo
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Are you meaning to tell me that our poor efforts at social distancing reduced our deaths from 300k to 1k?
Is this over? Are we out of the woods yet? We're at 1k+ deaths today and we're nowhere near through the cycle.
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