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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***

Posted on 3/23/20 at 6:40 pm to
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77270 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 6:40 pm to
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Then every store shuts down and nobody can come out there house for 6 weeks
And we surpass the point of no return...if we haven’t already.
This post was edited on 3/23/20 at 6:41 pm
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
46735 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 6:40 pm to
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What happens when the numbers are still growing in 15 days despite the measures already taken?


There will be areas in the country where that will be the case and others where it won’t. He will encourage hot spots to be more strict while areas with lower cases to open back up.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24248 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 6:42 pm to
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Then every store shuts down and nobody can come out there house for 6 weeks

Right. And starve thousands who don't have the money now for 6 weeks worth of food? Sounds like a solid plan.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24248 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 6:47 pm to
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There will be areas in the country where that will be the case and others where it won’t. 

Well that was the case from the very beginning. Did we really think this was gonna be as bad in Nebraska and Alabama as California and New York?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77270 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 6:47 pm to
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Right. And starve thousands who don't have the money now for 6 weeks worth of food? Sounds like a solid plan.



People are incredibly myopic in their view of this situation.
Posted by CivilTiger83
Member since Dec 2017
2525 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 6:48 pm to
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And we surpass the point of no return...if we haven’t already.


Scruffy, what would be your suggested approach?
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
46735 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 6:50 pm to
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Well that was the case from the very beginning. Did we really think this was gonna be as bad in Nebraska and Alabama as California and New York?


You still need some data to know what you are dealing with and where. And we have been saying from the beginning we need a whole lot more testing. I think more testing gets us back faster.
This post was edited on 3/23/20 at 6:52 pm
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77270 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 6:50 pm to
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Scruffy, what would be your suggested approach?
Have everyone return to work as able.

Those who can work at home do that.

For everyone else, continue working and continue testing.

Increase testing to involve just fevers.

Those positive stay home. Strictly enforce this.

Those who are in higher risk groups take increased measures to protect themselves.

We have to get the economy back on track.

Long term destruction of the working class also results in severe effects, such as increased crime and deaths.

Focus efforts strongly on those cities hit the hardest.
This post was edited on 3/23/20 at 6:53 pm
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 6:54 pm to
I was just entering the workforce at that time, graduated from tech college in 2009. I had minimum wage jobs before that. It took me ~9 months to find a job in my field (IT) after I moved to BR in 2009.

Anyway, you're right. I was 20,21 and had no responsibility besides bills. I'm 31 now and have a family, a mortgage, car note, etc. I've come far in my career but there's only 1 of me in my position at work so I'm not sure if they would see me as expendable or as invaluable
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86227 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 6:54 pm to
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.if we haven’t already.


Scruffy needs to calm down with the doomcasting

Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77270 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 6:57 pm to
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doomcasting
Too late for that.

When the stock market sheds 9000 and the GDP predictions are all terrible, we have moved passed “doomcasting”.

This isn’t like predicting numbers of deaths.

Our response has already ruined people financially.

That isn’t a prediction. It has already happened.
This post was edited on 3/23/20 at 6:58 pm
Posted by CivilTiger83
Member since Dec 2017
2525 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 7:00 pm to
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Have everyone return to work as able.

Those who can work at home do that.

For everyone else, continue working and continue testing.

Increase testing to involve just fevers.

Those positive stay home. Strictly enforce this.

Those who are in higher risk groups take increased measures to protect themselves.

We have to get the economy back on track.

Long term destruction of the working class also results in severe effects, such as increased crime and deaths.

Focus efforts strongly on those cities hit the hardest.


Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86227 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 7:01 pm to
The stock market was tanking well before we started shutting everything down.

So you can't blame people losing their 401ks completely on this.

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That isn’t a prediction. It has already happened.


Nobody that got furloughed last week is completely ruined financially already. Jesus Christ.

If they are, they were already ruined.

You have become what you lectured everyone about for hundreds of pages. You have become Mr. Perfect. Congrats, my dude.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
46735 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 7:02 pm to
keep investing Scruffy. Good money to be made on the way back up.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77270 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 7:07 pm to
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The stock market was tanking well before we started shutting everything down.

Tanking?
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So you can't blame people losing their 401ks completely on this.
Absolutely you can.
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Nobody that got furloughed last week is completely ruined financially already.
Buddy, this won’t be over at 15 days.

This is just the beginning.

Cuomo pushing for months.

California doing the same thing.

Two of our biggest economies on indefinite lockdown.
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You have become what you lectured everyone about for hundreds of pages.

Sure.

This is the outcome Scruffy preached against for “hundreds of pages”.

Let’s hope to God Scruffy is wrong.

If Scruffy is, he’ll take any length of time self ban. Just pick a number.
This post was edited on 3/23/20 at 7:10 pm
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85117 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 7:07 pm to
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Have everyone return to work as able.

Those who can work at home do that.


After listening to some of Trumps conference, it sounds like this may be the push in another week.

If the US had mask supplies it would be easier. I’m not even talking about N95, just regular masks that can stop those that are showing minor signs to stop spreading it by coughing, sneezing, or drooling.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17699 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 7:09 pm to
Only $16 of $SPY left before the last 5 years of gains are wiped out.
Posted by CivilTiger83
Member since Dec 2017
2525 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 7:09 pm to
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I was just entering the workforce at that time, graduated from tech college in 2009. I had minimum wage jobs before that. It took me ~9 months to find a job in my field (IT) after I moved to BR in 2009.

Anyway, you're right. I was 20,21 and had no responsibility besides bills. I'm 31 now and have a family, a mortgage, car note, etc. I've come far in my career but there's only 1 of me in my position at work so I'm not sure if they would see me as expendable or as invaluable



Step aside... the late 30s crowd has you covered. We went into a red hot economy for about a year or two in 2004-2007 - enough to fork over money for a house - only to watch the $20k you put into a home turn into a $50k underwater money pit while half the people around you are laid off.

You have rebuilt slowly over many years and all of the sudden one of the greatest economies in modern times vanishes in the span of weeks because of a random Chinese virus.

Baby boomers had a 30 year bull run with no major crisis, and the older millenials have been gifted with not one but two Great Recessions in the span of their first 15 years if things continue on their current path.



It's all good... comparison is the thief of joy, and if you are an American living today that makes you blessed.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24248 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 7:12 pm to
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The stock market was tanking well before we started shutting everything down.

Wat? Tanking?
Posted by uscpuke
Member since Jan 2004
6311 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 7:13 pm to
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CivilTiger83

Great post. Was a pleasure to read while I sit here taking a substantial dump. One of those that you get up from, breathe a huge sigh and go lay down.
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