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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***
Posted on 3/16/20 at 3:13 pm to Burhead
Posted on 3/16/20 at 3:13 pm to Burhead
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NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio says he anticipates asking the federal government to send health care workers from other states that haven’t been hit hard to help coronavirus efforts in NYC.
No one wants to leave their own family and travel to a high risk area voluntarily. They need to try to obtain agency nurses to the best of their ability, but that is about it.
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Posted on 3/16/20 at 3:15 pm to Pettifogger
quote:Idk. History for one? We’ve had just one pandemic over the last 300 years that crossed 2mill deaths world wide and it was because we had just gotten over a world war and a huge mass of people were going back home while at the same time countries tried to keep the death tolls under wraps.
why this event wouldn't result in a couple hundred thousand deaths if measures weren't taken?
And second, measures can be taken. Same measures we should always take for contracted illnesses. Stay home when sick. Wash often. Those two simple little things keep people alive more than you know. It has always worked but apparently this virus is sooooo different that the whole damn world has to stop.
Posted on 3/16/20 at 3:16 pm to WaWaWeeWa
quote:Want me to link you my post 6 days ago that suggested it?
you just switched to this quarantine the elderly idea.
Posted on 3/16/20 at 3:17 pm to ell_13
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Want me to link you my post 6 days ago that suggested it?
shite I’ve been saying that for a couple of weeks.
Posted on 3/16/20 at 3:18 pm to ell_13
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And swine flu?
We have a vaccine for H1N1. We had one ready to go and mass-produced/distributed about 6 months after the first US case in 2009.
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Relative to what? To the symptoms? Compared to other coronavirus and influenzas?
There is no drug we can give them that will fight off the infection - currently the only treatments are managing symptoms (fever, shortness of breath, etc). Essentially, your immune system has to fight it off on its own.
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Back these false numbers again which we KNOW are not true.
I don't know how to convince you of math, but I'm not an elementary school teacher, you'll have to learn percentages on your own.
Posted on 3/16/20 at 3:20 pm to Korkstand
Come on man. This isn’t the same as the flu. It’s a much more dangerous and contagious type of flu.
It’s pretty likely this will kill much more than a couple thousand people. This is going to be in the tens of thousands. That’s just going by statistics of the mortality rate and the number of people in the country
It’s pretty likely this will kill much more than a couple thousand people. This is going to be in the tens of thousands. That’s just going by statistics of the mortality rate and the number of people in the country
Posted on 3/16/20 at 3:22 pm to BamaAtl
quote:The first case was in April and the vaccine wasn’t done until January with mass production starting in Feb. so that’s wrong. But by that time 12k people had died and 300k people had been hospitalized. We didn’t stop the world.
We have a vaccine for H1N1. We had one ready to go and mass-produced/distributed about 6 months after the first US case in 2009.
quote:Welcome to the world of viruses.
There is no drug we can give them that will fight off the infection - currently the only treatments are managing symptoms (fever, shortness of breath, etc). Essentially, your immune system has to fight it off on its own.
quote:It’s not my fault your numbers were completely incorrect.
I don't know how to convince you of math, but I'm not an elementary school teacher, you'll have to learn percentages on your own.
Posted on 3/16/20 at 3:22 pm to BamaAtl
quote:The thing about percentages is we have to know the denominator. We don't know the true denominator.
I don't know how to convince you of math, but I'm not an elementary school teacher, you'll have to learn percentages on your own.
Posted on 3/16/20 at 3:22 pm to WicKed WayZ
No it’s not
Posted on 3/16/20 at 3:23 pm to TigerChief10
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I want to contract this virus so bad just so I can show yall how much you're overreacting to this fricking cold
300 pages later and I'm still thinking about this post. what a masterpiece
Posted on 3/16/20 at 3:24 pm to BamaAtl
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But if we act now, we can keep the deaths around 10-20,000 instead of 100-200,000 (or higher).
This and people who refute it just are out of touch with reality at this point and are uncomfortable with the effects this will he on the economy and their daily lives. Hell, they’re also uncomfortable with the idea that this could have significant impacts on our lives and our country moving forward. It scares the frick out of me but I can at least accept it and am willing to make sacrifices now
Posted on 3/16/20 at 3:25 pm to More beer please
Keep sticking your head in the sand
Posted on 3/16/20 at 3:26 pm to WicKed WayZ
quote:The evidence does not suggest that it is "much more dangerous" than the flu. Slightly more dangerous, maybe, but I would not be surprised if this turns out to be less dangerous than the flu once we have more data.
Come on man. This isn’t the same as the flu. It’s a much more dangerous and contagious type of flu.
quote:The problem with using the current mortality rates is that they are nowhere near accurate. The numerator is probably close, but the denominator should be treated as a bare minimum number at this point. Which means that any mortality rate that is based on confirmed positive cases should be treated as an absolute worst-case figure. The true figure is likely to be an order of magnitude less scary.
It’s pretty likely this will kill much more than a couple thousand people. This is going to be in the tens of thousands. That’s just going by statistics of the mortality rate and the number of people in the country
Posted on 3/16/20 at 3:27 pm to ell_13
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Idk. History for one? We’ve had just one pandemic over the last 300 years that crossed 2mill deaths world wide and it was because we had just gotten over a world war and a huge mass of people were going back home while at the same time countries tried to keep the death tolls under wraps.
I mean, sounds like you're in the same boat. You doubt it would continue to the point of a couple hundred thousand deaths, but you don't know why it'd stop, either.
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And second, measures can be taken. Same measures we should always take for contracted illnesses. Stay home when sick. Wash often. Those two simple little things keep people alive more than you know. It has always worked but apparently this virus is sooooo different that the whole damn world has to stop.
It's worked in the sense that less communicable and deadly viruses have killed only 10-15k or whatever?
Based purely on the math, you're looking at between 100-200k (figure I've seen others thrown around, and by my crude math 10% of the country being infected and .5% of those dying puts you in that range). This is hypothesis, so nobody get all worked up.
I buy the idea that "some" measures that are less economically destructive would (again we're still in a vacuum) get that number down, let's say in half.
So I guess the idea is whether the extra measures being taken are worth the additional 10k, 25k, 50k lives. I'm not being judgmental, but I think soberly this is the reality as we know it now.
Now, summer, some other limiting factor, etc. could exist, but I don't think anyone knows that. Same for vaccines or treatment.
BamaATL - is that the idea here?
Posted on 3/16/20 at 3:28 pm to WicKed WayZ
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Come on man. This isn’t the same as the flu. It’s a much more dangerous and contagious type of flu.
It’s pretty likely this will kill much more than a couple thousand people. This is going to be in the tens of thousands. That’s just going by statistics of the mortality rate and the number of people in the country
This is like not true, based off data.
Posted on 3/16/20 at 3:28 pm to Pettifogger
Finally stickied!
Posted on 3/16/20 at 3:29 pm to Korkstand
Worst case scenarios should be used when it comes to pandemics I would think
Posted on 3/16/20 at 3:30 pm to DarthRebel
Look above you
Posted on 3/16/20 at 3:31 pm to ell_13
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The first case was in April and the vaccine wasn’t done until January with mass production starting in Feb. so that’s wrong.
That's wrong - my hospital got our first doses of vaccine in October/November. By December >100M doses had been ordered nationwide.
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Welcome to the world of viruses.
It's not 1965 anymore. We have a number of medication therapies that are useful to shortening the duration of viral illnesses. But nothing for covid-19, obviously.
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It’s not my fault your numbers were completely incorrect.
They're not my numbers, they're from the WHO. We're currently at just over 7,100 deaths and 180,000 confirmed cases.
Posted on 3/16/20 at 3:31 pm to crewdepoo
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Finally stickied!
Should have been stickied since day 1 since people were collapsing in the streets of Wuhan.
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