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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***
Posted on 3/6/20 at 1:54 pm to Dr RC
Posted on 3/6/20 at 1:54 pm to Dr RC
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That $8.3 billion is up from his initial proposal of $2.5 billion. He and the Republicans went from thinking $2.5 was enough and scoffing at Dems for wanting more to tripling it in less than a week. Yet some people think this isn't serious?
You fight the fight you need to fight. The left over money can be used to build a wall to keep the virus out
DJT is wise to recognize the Corona hill was not the one to die on. $8 billion will not be spent fighting this.
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Posted on 3/6/20 at 2:00 pm to DarthRebel
I'm sorry but you don't get that kind of movement from either party if something isn't a big deal.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 2:01 pm to Dr RC
I think you don't know how this works. If Trump asks for 8, the Democrats ask for 16.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 2:04 pm to Pettifogger
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It means people in your community and broader social circles will likely die from this if the spread is significant.
People die in my community every day from car crashes, gun violence, and chronic health problems. More people will die from those things in the United States tomorrow than they will from the amount of people Coronavirus has so far killed.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 2:06 pm to RollTide1987
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People die in my community every day from car crashes, gun violence, and chronic health problems. More people will die from those things in the United States tomorrow than they will from the amount of people Coronavirus has so far killed.
That's great and all, but it's irrelevant. What's more, we already try to limit car crashes, gun violence and other health problems.
Why wouldn't we do the same here? Honestly the ridiculous disregard for public health measures falls into the same boat as the people buying up toilet paper - they're both emotional, stubborn reactions to reality.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 2:07 pm to RollTide1987
More people as a whole will die because of the Coronavirus. It isn't binary. Say Ebola was floating around a bunch more other viruses you would say well the flu kills such and such... No shot Sherlock but the more disease we have to fight the more deaths there will be from diseases. Just like the more people that drink and drive the more deaths from drunk driving.
I wish stupidity had a higher mortality rate. The human race would be better off.
I wish stupidity had a higher mortality rate. The human race would be better off.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 2:15 pm to ashy larry
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It's also terrifying b/c these are the people walking around and potentially infecting others. Unless these people are somehow not contagious, they are most likely the ones spreading the virus b/c at least the sicks ones stay home.
Yes and no. It's terrifying because it's unknown. But asymptomatic people aren't coughing or sneezing all over everything. They aren't normally the biggest drivers of disease spread.
This post was edited on 3/6/20 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 3/6/20 at 2:16 pm to Pettifogger
quote:We arent doing the same. Thats the point. We are going beyond exponentially in some cases
Why wouldn't we do the same here?
People would riot at the thought of closing schools, stopping sporting events etc etc in order to get more cars off the road to prevent vehicle accidents.....
Yet, vehicle accidents kill 102 people per day in the USA. In 12 months, 33,000 people die in the usa alone from vehicle deaths. In 3 months, 3,300 people have died worldwide from COVID-19
Its just proof people are only truly "frightened" by this to the point they are because its new
Hell, people would lose their mind if we even suggested making the max speed limit 45mph
This post was edited on 3/6/20 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 3/6/20 at 2:25 pm to SaintsandTigers
FOX LA
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#BREAKING: Two additional cases of #coronavirus confirmed in LA County, including another medical screener at LAX. Total number of cases up to 13.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 2:32 pm to Pettifogger
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Why wouldn't we do the same here? Honestly the ridiculous disregard for public health measures falls into the same boat as the people buying up toilet paper - they're both emotional, stubborn reactions to reality.
I have no problem with people taking precautions. Wash your hands and all that junk. My problem is with those who are trying to create mass hysteria. Take the state of California for instance. They just declared a state of emergency. And for what? 60 cases in a state with a population of 40 million. That's the kind of move that will cause a panic that can end up killing more people than the virus itself.
That's my issue and people on this message board and in this thread have a similar mentality. It's almost like they want this to be a true pandemic on the same size and scale as the 1918 Spanish Flu.
This post was edited on 3/6/20 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 3/6/20 at 2:33 pm to RollTide1987
There will no doubt be overreactions.
Of course I'm going to guess the state of emergency declarations are for various governmental powers (tapping into reserves, etc.) rather than some sign of government panic.
Like when we declare a state of emergency BEFORE a minor tropical storm or snow arrives.
Of course I'm going to guess the state of emergency declarations are for various governmental powers (tapping into reserves, etc.) rather than some sign of government panic.
Like when we declare a state of emergency BEFORE a minor tropical storm or snow arrives.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 2:36 pm to Pettifogger
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Of course I'm going to guess the state of emergency declarations are for various governmental powers (tapping into reserves, etc.) rather than some sign of government panic.
It is still an overreaction no matter how you slice it.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 2:38 pm to SaintsandTigers
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Yet, vehicle accidents kill 102 people per day in the USA. In 12 months, 33,000 people die in the usa alone from vehicle deaths. In 3 months, 3,300 people have died worldwide from COVID-19
There is utility in vehicle use and danger is inherent to that use. Moreover vehicle crashes are the product of human autonomy/mistake, and the impacts of coronavirus are not. I don't see how the two are comparable.
There is, of course, a "cost to doing business" in all things and ultimately we may decide as a society that schooling or sports or whatever is worth the spread of a disease (we already do, really). But this is a new disease, the planned halts are temporary, and I just don't see them as a big overreaction if the goal is to try and slow the spread by restricting non-essential stuff for weeks or a couple months at a time.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 2:39 pm to SaintsandTigers
Bro cars have been around for 100 years. Covid-19 has been around for 3.5 months. It hasn't had time for everyone to have a car or 3. When they do tho I think there will be a few more deaths. What's the chance of me dying driving a car? I drive one almost everyday. Let's compare diseases to death by cars that makes since. Let's compare building cars to people having sex. Dumb people reproduce more often... Why do only smart people build cars more often?
Posted on 3/6/20 at 2:39 pm to RollTide1987
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It is still an overreaction no matter how you slice it.
This is what I'm talking about with stubbornness. You haven't really pointed to anything that crazy, and nonetheless you're insisting it's an overreaction.
People buying the stores out of sanitizer and TP is an overreaction. Shutting down some schools in a hotbed of viral spread isn't a big overreaction and is done for other illnesses with regularity in this country.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 2:49 pm to RollTide1987
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My problem is with those who are trying to create mass hysteria. Take the state of California for instance. They just declared a state of emergency. And for what? 60 cases in a state with a population of 40 million. That's the kind of move that will cause a panic that can end up killing more people than the virus itself.
That just gives them more funding
Posted on 3/6/20 at 2:51 pm to Poker_hog
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Welcome to the dark side. Has slacker converted or is he still saying nothingburger?
Wait, what?
I said it was going to be a global pandemic back in January. I can pull it up if you like.
This “us vs them” BS has to stop, especially if the posts are going to have a sense of smugness of your “side” winning.
Especially as I ended up in the “them” catagory because I refused to believe every little twitter post including it being an “obvious” bio weapon and that China was hiding 100k dead from the virus.
There were some awesome gems back there I’m getting increasingly tempted to refer back to.
This post was edited on 3/6/20 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 3/6/20 at 2:58 pm to cattus
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That made me chuckle but I make just south of 60k. No baller here.
You can buy a 32 year old Thai woman on that salary?!
Posted on 3/6/20 at 3:00 pm to Pettifogger
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People buying the stores out of sanitizer and TP is an overreaction. Shutting down some schools in a hotbed of viral spread isn't a big overreaction and is done for other illnesses with regularity in this country.
People are fricking stupid and fell for the MSM's mass hysteria bullshite.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 3:05 pm to Pettifogger
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You haven't really pointed to anything that crazy, and nonetheless you're insisting it's an overreaction.
Dude...take a look around the globe. Italy is practically shut down. China is practically shut down. Other countries are considering similar measures. Here in the United States, businesses on the West Coast are closed and are telling their employees to work from home and some districts in Washington and Idaho have temporarily shut down classes while they sanitize entire schools.
Costco is limiting the amount of water and food you can buy because of run-ins that have happened in their stores throughout the country. Other buy-in-bulk stores like Sam's Club are doing the same. People are starting to panic because the media and local/state governments are whipping them up into a frenzy over this nonsense.
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