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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***
Posted on 3/4/20 at 4:28 am to DollaChoppa
Posted on 3/4/20 at 4:28 am to DollaChoppa
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I remember her talking about how they weren’t able to accept patients and had to send them to other cities. Not sure if that was a representative experience.
This matches what I heard from our local hospital. Around that time I was going to the hospital for physical therapy and it was a constant topic of conversation amongst the staff. I don't ever recall seeing it on the news though.
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Posted on 3/4/20 at 5:21 am to Volvagia
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But muh .54%
When Volvagia starts sounding the alarm...
Posted on 3/4/20 at 5:31 am to Volvagia
Volvagia, are you sounding the alarm??
Posted on 3/4/20 at 5:32 am to CivilTiger83
It’s just the same crap from the other direction. People want to desperately declare an extreme when the jury is still out.
I won’t lie, my concern level has picked up from the start. The numbers have proven that it could be a major issue especially in conjunction with the incompetence of how the US has handled it so far.
The biggest argument against justifying hitting the panic button? It does seem like generational attenuation is a thing with this one, especially if SK can get ahead of the hole they find themselves in.
Posted on 3/4/20 at 5:50 am to CCT
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Volvagia, are you sounding the alarm??
Right now we have a good grasp of what it will do clinically. It’s just a question of sustained virulence.
Both the case and death curves are flattening out right now, which is great news and what the “muh flu’s” need to happen to have their predictions bear out. Hopefully it’s not simply due to the measures China did that won’t be easily replicated elsewhere.
If the slope increases again as it establishes a foothold in the US and Europe, that might be indicative of us having a problem and would send me on the next tier of prepping: massive booze run.
This post was edited on 3/4/20 at 5:52 am
Posted on 3/4/20 at 5:52 am to Volvagia
My mom is less than a week from being 66, no pics lol, teaches the er cert classes for all 3 local st vincent's. She's still joking about relatively healthy people coming in and swearing they have the corona. I'm not overly worried, yet.
Posted on 3/4/20 at 5:59 am to MoarKilometers
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I'm not overly worried, yet.
I’m not worried about me, more so for others.
My little ones daycare sent out a mile long email about the virus and then started getting preachy telling parent “don’t fly when you can drive”
As I’ve said from the start, I think it will impact the group that is susceptible to the common flu, as we’ve seen... however I think with the lack of the cdc’s competence, it will be worse than originally thought.
Posted on 3/4/20 at 6:08 am to Volvagia
"The World Health Organization announced on Tuesday that the global death rate of the new coronavirus is 3.4 percent.
Deaths outside China exceeded those in the country for the first time since the start of the outbreak."
NYT Article
Deaths outside China exceeded those in the country for the first time since the start of the outbreak."
NYT Article
Posted on 3/4/20 at 6:12 am to Lsut81
Y’all saw India announced 22 new cases? I know we’ve all been kinda wondering about it’s impact there.
Posted on 3/4/20 at 6:14 am to DollaChoppa
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Y’all saw India announced 22 new cases?
The spread in India and Iran is surprising and not... we’ve heard it cant live on surfaces in warm climates, but very crowded places like India don’t really have to worry about surface contact, you’ll have person to person transfer a lot easier than most places.
This post was edited on 3/4/20 at 6:23 am
Posted on 3/4/20 at 6:16 am to Volvagia
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I won’t lie, my concern level has picked up from the start. The numbers have proven that it could be a major issue especially in conjunction with the incompetence of how the US has handled it so far.
That is complete bullshite.
Posted on 3/4/20 at 6:19 am to gthog61
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I won’t lie, my concern level has picked up from the start. The numbers have proven that it could be a major issue especially in conjunction with the incompetence of how the US has handled it so far.
Which part?
Posted on 3/4/20 at 6:22 am to gthog61
Wrong
Posted on 3/4/20 at 6:28 am to chimesstreet
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Deaths outside China exceeded those in the country for the first time since the start of the outbreak."
Could that be because the overall rate of people getting it in China has been declining for some time now?
Posted on 3/4/20 at 6:30 am to Darth_Vader
That is the primary reason.
Posted on 3/4/20 at 6:43 am to slackster
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an extra ~25,000 deaths
This has been debunked
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who knows how many ICU visits
Exactly. We don’t know that it equaled more ICU visits because the 25,000 you quoted is a computer algorithm that uses all cases of pneumonia to estimate flu deaths.
Posted on 3/4/20 at 6:49 am to gthog61
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That is complete bull shite.
The incompetence part? That isn't a political hit. The CDC and our ability to effectively test has been bungled big time. The delay in changing the protocol for who gets tested has hurt an early opportunity to get ahead of this. Now we are playing catchup and we still show no evidence of being able to effectively manage this.
My thought is that the CDC has been more concerned with other missions and has lost sight at being excellent at the one thing that is at the core of their mission. They are a bureaucracy, and without proper authority/funding/will they will function like any other type of bureaucracy... glacial.
This post was edited on 3/4/20 at 6:50 am
Posted on 3/4/20 at 6:53 am to Volvagia
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It does seem like generational attenuation is a thing with this one
How does this work? I’m guessing mutation
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Both the case and death curves are flattening out right now,
Is this for total cases? What do the curves look like for cases outside of China only?
This post was edited on 3/4/20 at 7:03 am
Posted on 3/4/20 at 6:59 am to rds dc
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BREAKING: Italy closing all schools and universities across the country due to coronavirus - ANSA
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BREAKING: Germany's health minister says coronavirus "has become a global pandemic""
This post was edited on 3/4/20 at 7:00 am
Posted on 3/4/20 at 7:07 am to WaWaWeeWa
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How does this work? I’m guessing mutation
Correct.
It’s common for traits of a novel emergent virus to not be stable as the viron settles in it’s new evolutionary selective conditions.
Even in some viruses that have made the jump but aren’t endemic yet in humans , you see drops of virulence the further you get from the animal reservoir.
Ebola is one example I believe. Initial mortality is often above 90%, and in the years long outbreak in west Africa I think it was sub 40% towards the end.
This post was edited on 3/4/20 at 7:08 am
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