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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***

Posted on 7/8/20 at 4:57 am to
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/8/20 at 4:57 am to
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Seems schools have opened safely in countries without skyrocketing positive cases.

What the US is up against now to convince enough people to support it is seeing the surge of current cases begin to drop significantly.


We are up against a political machine that doesn’t want to elect Trump again. It is all politics at this point. Kids going back to school would be getting back to old normal. They want a new normal.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 7/8/20 at 6:56 am to


Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:31 am to
Those are CASES per million, not deaths

Qatar isn’t testing 15 year old asymptomatic patients so the can play travel baseball.

It’s apples to oranges.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11821 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:38 am to
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Qatar isn’t testing 15 year old asymptomatic patients so the can play travel baseball.


Exactly. Would need same chart showing tests per million.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25919 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:45 am to
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Qatar isn’t testing 15 year old asymptomatic patients so the can play travel baseball.


Exactly. Would need same chart showing tests per million.


Bahrain is currently second in the world in testing per million, with Qatar 11th.

Bahrain has a population of ~1.6 million, and Qatar's is ~2.8 million.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11821 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:50 am to
Thank you
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11821 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:54 am to
Is my math correct that Louisiana averaged over 4,000 test per million last 7 days and Qatar averaged 1,600?

Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
Member since Jul 2010
61215 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 8:21 am to
IDK
119,096 tests 7/1-7/7 From the Daily posted chart on
TD OT.

4.6 million people in LA, estimated roughly

25,890 tests for each million last 7 days?
This post was edited on 7/8/20 at 8:45 am
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11821 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 8:38 am to
per day average would be 4,300. Way more than Qatar and most countries. South Korea is doing like 200 tests per day per million.
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
Member since Jul 2010
61215 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 8:47 am to
Ahh yeah
Forgot the last step for a daily average.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11821 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 9:01 am to
So as a "country" Louisiana is testing far more than nearly all.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9425 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 9:34 am to

What jumps out about the graph isn't the presence
of Qatar and Bahrain but the complete absence of any European, Asian countries that we usually think of as similar to us in science, medicine, preparedness etc etc.

Not even England, the worst of the European countries, is there.
Posted by escatawpabuckeye
Member since Jan 2013
1043 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 9:43 am to
Well to be fair I’m sure countries like South Korea and taiwan have the capacity to test at this level but don’t currently need to simply because their outbreak is at this point well in hand. Similarly with Germany, New Zealand etc.

The UK I find more concerning
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11821 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 9:54 am to
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Not even England, the worst of the European countries, is there.


Yeah, no way Sweden is not on this list, right?
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9425 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:11 am to
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Well to be fair I’m sure countries like South Korea and taiwan have the capacity to test at this level but don’t currently need to simply because their outbreak is at this point well in hand. Similarly with Germany, New Zealand etc.

The UK I find more concerning



That's what I meant, every other country with that testing capacity no longer has to do it on the same level as we do because their response was more successful in getting the outbreak more under control.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

Well to be fair I’m sure countries like South Korea and taiwan have the capacity to test at this level but don’t currently need to simply because their outbreak is at this point well in hand.


How would they even know this?

If we didn’t test anyone it would look like we were under control as well. Every metric is down. The “hospitalizations“ are increasing because people in the hospital are testing positive incidentally
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25919 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 12:43 pm to
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That's what I meant, every other country with that testing capacity no longer has to do it on the same level as we do because their response was more successful in getting the outbreak more under control.



Considering responses have varied country to country, yet they all seem to have followed the same path, I'd say some other factors had more to do with outbreak control.
Posted by escatawpabuckeye
Member since Jan 2013
1043 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 1:33 pm to
It’s not as though they’ve stopped testing altogether. The percent positive rising if persistently doing a steady number of tests might also indicate rising levels of disease.

Also, I’m not sure I buy rising hospitalizations being due only to increasing incidental diagnosis of Covid. That’s undoubtedly happening but you can’t tell me that Houston or miami for instance are filling up their ICUs with people just incidentally found to have Covid.

Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 7/8/20 at 1:35 pm to
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escatawpabuckeye


I just want you to know I gave you an upvote for your logical rationality before the onslaught of downvotes hits you.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
64517 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 2:03 pm to
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It’s not as though they’ve stopped testing altogether. The percent positive rising if persistently doing a steady number of tests might also indicate rising levels of disease.


As referenced in a link on this page or the last the percent positive rate may not be very reliable due to situations where negative tests don’t get reported

quote:


Also, I’m not sure I buy rising hospitalizations being due only to increasing incidental diagnosis of Covid. That’s undoubtedly happening but you can’t tell me that Houston or miami for instance are filling up their ICUs with people just incidentally found to have Covid.


Agreed
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