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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***

Posted on 7/8/20 at 2:32 pm to
Posted by escatawpabuckeye
Member since Jan 2013
954 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 2:32 pm to
Agreed completely re: reporting standards. There is so much variability from country to country and state to state.

It’s why we have to focus on comparing to countries we can traditionally trust like EU and pacific rim allies. Who the hell actually knows what’s happening in Brazil, Russia or India.
Posted by jennBN
Member since Jun 2010
3136 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 4:02 pm to
Just as an FYI, we are starting to see a strain on our system again here in Northern California. ICU at capacity, staff getting sick, can't get gloves or surgical caps/shoe covers etc. Out of testing supplies so the county is shutting down 5 testing sites until supplies are available. We are not overwhelmed but we are seeing thing begin to deteriorate again.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 5:00 pm to
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ICU at capacity, staff getting sick


What percentage of the ICU is covid as primary diagnosis?

Are staff testing positive again? Or staff that never had the virus before?
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
19447 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 5:04 pm to
So I had a Soldier that tested positive for IgG and IgM antibodies but tested negative for COVID infection.

Reading from Dr. Googles. IgG antibodies are produced 1 week after infection and IgM are produced 2-4 weeks after infection. So if he has both that means he was infected 3-4 weeks ago, recovered and has the antibodies in his system? How long do they stay there?
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
17886 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 5:09 pm to
No one knows. Genuinely, no one knows.
Posted by jennBN
Member since Jun 2010
3136 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 5:17 pm to
13 of 36 ICU beds are "acute respiratory failure" primary diagnoses with positive test results.

Increased number of staff in the ICU and OR are testing positive. ICU from an exposure that was admitted for ICH and then got symptomatic. So 3 days in ICU with out contact+ precautions. OR as a result of EVS worker who worked 2 shifts with a fever, shared break room with all staff. I don't know how many that are testing positive are symptomatic...contact tracing is essentially testing all employees in those areas.

Edit: to my knowledge no employee has tested positive after a negative test. some have tested positive for a long period of time (3 weeks) but no reinfections.
This post was edited on 7/8/20 at 5:20 pm
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
10519 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 5:51 pm to
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OR as a result of EVS worker who worked 2 shifts with a fever, shared break room with all staff.


I'm surprised mandatory temp checks are not in place. My office and plant are not health care related but I get a forehead scan before entering.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11475 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 5:58 pm to
Study: Cloth Masks Worse than Medical and Control Group

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Cloth masks in a RCT against medical masks and a control group. They had more infections than both the medical mask and control group.

"Moisture retention, reuse of cloth masks and poor filtration may result in increased risk of infection."
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11475 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 6:05 pm to
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I'm surprised mandatory temp checks are not in place. My office and plant are not health care related but I get a forehead scan before entering.


Wouldn't a Pulse Oximeter be better for this virus? I mean I think temperature too but probably both.
Posted by escatawpabuckeye
Member since Jan 2013
954 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 6:33 pm to
Rate of burn for PPE will be significantly greater now with so many other locations coming into full bloom simultaneously. Hopefully we’ve fixed those supply chain issues.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 6:33 pm to
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control arm (standard practice, which may or may not include mask use). Standard practice was used as control because the IRB deemed it unethical to ask participants to not wear a mask.



I’m not arguing for or against masks, but that’s an awful misrepresentation of a poor study.

The control group was basically mask use. What type we don’t know? Could have been medical masks as well.

This would mean all they did was compare cloth masks to medical masks. Which we already know cloth masks are inferior.

We haven’t proven that no masks are better than cloth masks.
This post was edited on 7/8/20 at 6:34 pm
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11475 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 6:38 pm to
I think it does provide some insight that could make cloth masks better. Clean/santize them, for instance.

It wasn't earth shattering stuff. But, I am seeing some pretty crappy cloth mask practices in my area.

I didn't get impression at all they are saying better than no mask.
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
10519 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 8:26 pm to
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Jesus


Completely unhinged.
Posted by jennBN
Member since Jun 2010
3136 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 8:41 pm to
Every night when I pray, I give thanks for my children’s health and give thanks that I was lucky enough to have them....maybe I am doing it wrong?
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 9:24 pm to
So I haven’t posted in a while since I start a new job in August but put my resignation date for my last job as June 30th and I had a lot to get finished by then.

Anyways, my FIL was diagnosed with COVID this weekend. And there is a long story I could go into about it all since he got tested on Tuesday after an employer tested positive. His work still scheduled all those exposed to come in, and recommended a resting place that took a long weekend so their results didn’t come until first thing Monday.

Unfortunately he started displaying symptoms in Saturday, and the hospital’s test results came back positive on Sunday before the results from a test 4 days earlier came back. And his boss also tested positive so his work really messed up, IMO, keeping them in the schedule.

Unfortunately though, my MIL texted my wife a little bit ago, and they’re heading back to the hospital because my FIL now has a 104 degree fever. Luckily he doesn’t have any other health conditions, but at 63 he’s on the borderline of when age becomes a serious risk factor. Ironically, he came out of retirement to work a couple of years for the health insurance before my MIL’s teacher retirement health insurance costs decrease when Medicare eligible.
Posted by jennBN
Member since Jun 2010
3136 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 9:32 pm to
I am sorry to hear that. I hope he does well and his symptoms subside soon.
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
10519 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 9:47 pm to
I wish the best outcome.

Good luck on the job as well.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:00 pm to
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I am sorry to hear that. I hope he does well and his symptoms subside soon.
My wife, who is upstairs in bed (we normally wouldn’t text in the same house) just sent me this:
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They are keeping him. His pneumonia is a bit worse so they have him on an anabiotic. His blood gas is low so they are giving him oxygen now and I guess that's all they could tell me for right now.
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
10519 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:09 pm to
Prayers lifted for him, your wife and you.

Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:38 pm to
Hope he turns the corner soon. The randomness of this virus is so frustrating.
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