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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***

Posted on 7/3/20 at 9:00 pm to
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
13136 posts
Posted on 7/3/20 at 9:00 pm to
A quick run at the numbers in the study:

Combined population of Jefferson and Orleans Parish - 823,499.

If 7.8% of the population (Ochsner estimate) has had covid then that's 64,232 cases.

Reported combined deaths - 1,007 (probably a bit high since that's to date, Ochsner study is "recent").

100*1,007/64,232 = 1.57%. Pretty close to Ochsner's 1.63%.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 7/3/20 at 9:26 pm to
quote:

What do you think it is closer to?


The cdc thinks 0.3% so something is off. That’s not even in the same ballpark.

1.6% is not even close to the range of most other antibody studies
This post was edited on 7/3/20 at 9:28 pm
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41116 posts
Posted on 7/3/20 at 9:36 pm to
Yea, then that is definitely way off.
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
13136 posts
Posted on 7/4/20 at 6:06 am to
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The cdc thinks 0.3% so something is off.


CDC is an outlier on the low side and has a lot of skeptics, before that there were a number of studies in the 0.6% to 0.8% range.

US deaths are now 132k so a 0.3% fatality rate would mean 44 million people have been infected. That seems high, the last estimate I saw was 25 million (CDC I think), or 7.6% of the US population. Ochsner study said 7.8% of New Orleans, which was one of the most heavily infected locations in the country. 25 million probably errs on the high side since it has the US average about the same as New Orleans.

As a WAG - 20 million infections with 132k deaths, or 0.66% for the US. New Orleans at 1.6% may mean just a lot of unhealthy people at a time when we were still learning how to treat covid. Or Ochsner may be undercounting the cases somehow. I've always been highly skeptical of the CDC's 0.3%; maybe months down the road as treatment gets even better it will become correct.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11821 posts
Posted on 7/4/20 at 8:19 am to
My unscientific study. I have four fiends that have tested positive. All were over it in 24 hours Or never had any symptoms beyond loss of taste and smell. One of the four has diabetes, high blood pressure and over weight and is 45. One is 35 others are all in 40s.

This post was edited on 7/4/20 at 8:21 am
Posted by LaneRat
Member since May 2013
48 posts
Posted on 7/4/20 at 10:16 am to
I have been tracking fatalities since April because it is so difficult to get good info. Per million population, for selected states. The big jump in Jersey was for a bunch of probables that came in last week. I include all probables.
Posted by Crimsonians
Member since Nov 2019
2011 posts
Posted on 7/4/20 at 11:01 am to
Hearing 119 deaths in Florida today. Not good.

News was wrong.
This post was edited on 7/4/20 at 11:50 am
Posted by PentagonTiger
Taylor Hall
Member since Dec 2008
1657 posts
Posted on 7/4/20 at 11:27 am to
My sister is an icu nurse at Lafayette General. She said that unfortunately the deaths are mounting in the COVID unit.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
47864 posts
Posted on 7/4/20 at 11:32 am to
quote:

Hearing 119 deaths in Florida today. Not good.




$37k per death motivates CoD to be Covid e'erthing
Posted by Crimsonians
Member since Nov 2019
2011 posts
Posted on 7/4/20 at 11:43 am to
Actually only 18 for Florida. Much better. Local news has it wrong. ABC of course.

Fake news
This post was edited on 7/4/20 at 11:44 am
Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
12995 posts
Posted on 7/4/20 at 12:55 pm to
Well I’m on day 4 of no taste and no smell.
Don’t feel good, don’t feel bad.
Little congested.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55606 posts
Posted on 7/4/20 at 5:06 pm to
Yours is a great post! very thoughtful. I disagree only with saying Sweden compares best to Minnesota and ND. Not at all. There is no major international city, like Stockholm, in those states.

But you’re right to question whether Sweden’s approach could have been successfully implemented many other places.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55606 posts
Posted on 7/4/20 at 5:18 pm to
quote:

Will the pandemic be over before we get a straight answer on this? Is anyone able to put politics aside and see whether this treatment may help?

We had straight answers on hydroxychloroquine months ago. But the media is selectively publishing studies to discredit Trump.

Hydrx. has been shown to be fairly effective in shortening suffering if applied early to people who are not very sick. If they wait until a patient is extremely sick it does no good. This was known two months ago. The reason for the confusion is that studies were done in which extremely sick people were treated, and there was no positive effect. The media jumped on that to discredit Trump. But they never clarified by saying that it DOES help when applied early.

Trump and the media he fights are petulant children.
Posted by Old Money
LSU
Member since Sep 2012
41799 posts
Posted on 7/4/20 at 8:36 pm to
quote:

Well I’m on day 4 of no taste and no smell.
Don’t feel good, don’t feel bad.
Little congested.


Wishing you well baw
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40868 posts
Posted on 7/4/20 at 8:46 pm to
quote:

US deaths are now 132k so a 0.3% fatality rate would mean 44 million people have been infected


I disagree slightly.

While that is the number you would need infected to get .3 right now, our sample of deaths may be, and likely is, skewed towards the most susceptible.

So, if it could infect everyone the IFR may be .3, but since it hasn't our sample of cases can be biased towards those who die more from it at the moment.
This post was edited on 7/4/20 at 8:47 pm
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21548 posts
Posted on 7/5/20 at 6:07 pm to
Let's see how the media handles California next week. They updated their reporting system over the holiday weekend and may have underreported by as many as 25k cases and will be making adjustments starting tomorrow.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 7/5/20 at 8:07 pm to
You really don’t know? they are going to freak the frick out. Even though my question would be where are all the hospitalizations and deaths if there are that many cases?
Posted by GeauxTigers2020
Member since Sep 2013
28667 posts
Posted on 7/5/20 at 9:19 pm to
So a bunch of experts are sending this letter to the WHO about the virus being airborne. They want the WHO's acknowledgement/guidelines updated.

LINK

Somebody who is smarter than me, does this mean that the public needs to be wearing a N95 or something similar to prevent infection? Also, this could be a huge problem for many businesses/offices, right? Like I'm sure the vents in my old office building aren't going to be great for this.
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7601 posts
Posted on 7/5/20 at 9:40 pm to
New York City lost over 1% of its population and not everyone got infected.
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
14786 posts
Posted on 7/5/20 at 9:53 pm to
quote:

New York City lost over 1% of its population and not everyone got infected.


The virus is no hoax but your statement is not at all close to being correct.
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