- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***
Posted on 4/5/20 at 4:52 pm to S1C EM
Posted on 4/5/20 at 4:52 pm to S1C EM
And while it is absolutely disturbing, 1) there are pieces of paper with what I assume is a name taped to the bag. I hope that there is better identification (ie toe tag?) in the event that falls off and 2) would these really be in the hallway and not in a refrigerated truck? Maybe, IDK so I'm asking. That's a bigger hospital so I would have assumed that they would be prepared for this since there are other "refrigerator trucks" that Cuomo talked about.
1
Posted on 4/5/20 at 4:54 pm to PentagonTiger
quote:
Maybe now you see where there is a problem and why this is such a crisis.
I love it when people use the average flu death total to negate how serious this is as well. Those range through the whole year with the peak extending over like 5-6 months. This virus may have only killed a third of that total so far but that has been over the course of like a month, maybe a month and a half at most. Its not the number of deaths but the rate at which people are being hospitalized and the stress it puts on the health care system and their supplies. People can’t seem to get past the hard numbers.
This post was edited on 4/5/20 at 5:05 pm
Posted on 4/5/20 at 4:57 pm to tiger91
quote:
Maybe, IDK so I'm asking
Comment in the video claims its St Mary’s in London...
This is exactly what’s wrong, same bullshite out of Wuhan, old videos being recycled to cause panic. So whether its NYC, London, Wuhan, Italy, Spain, etc... Its all done to stroke fear.
Posted on 4/5/20 at 5:15 pm to Lsut81
So when Trump was talking about the body bags at Elmhurst was that stoking fear?
Posted on 4/5/20 at 5:17 pm to Lsut81
I understand it’s unsettling to see bodies but it’s just a guess but I would assume a hospital morgue has really limited capacity. It probably does not take much to fill up that space. In this situation there probably many reasons why a body may not be moved out as quaickly as normal.
This post was edited on 4/5/20 at 5:19 pm
Posted on 4/5/20 at 5:17 pm to Shaun176
quote:
There won't be an approved vaccine in the US for 18 months.
This is how China becomes the world's leading power and we fade away under the weight of partisanism and beuracracy.
If this is still spreading fairly rapidly and killing hundreds or thousands of people a day in the US when/if that vaccine is made this summer, there's no way we pretend it doesn't exist and wait another year-plus for all the red tape with our own vaccine.
Trump knows there would be an outcry if China made an effective vaccine while our progress was moving at a snail's pace due to all the bureaucracy. We would either buy it directly from China, copy what they've made, or remove all the regulation holding our own back.
No way we sit back and continue to spiral while China and it's other allies heal. I just don't see Trump or his experts allowing that to happen.
Posted on 4/5/20 at 5:18 pm to Unknown_Poster
quote:
So when Trump was talking about the body bags at Elmhurst was that stoking fear?
What did he say about body bags?
But yes, he does. You know exactly what I meant by my comment, but try to spin it. People taking videos, photos, anecdotal evidence from one place and trying to claim it is somewhere else is done with no other intent but to stoke fear.
Posted on 4/5/20 at 5:41 pm to little billy
quote:
I honestly believe the actual number of people with covid is in the hundreds of millions globally. Most people just fight it off.
100% agree. Or have already fought it off.
Posted on 4/5/20 at 6:01 pm to RazorBroncs
quote:
If this is still spreading fairly rapidly and killing hundreds or thousands of people a day in the US when/if that vaccine is made this summer, there's no way we pretend it doesn't exist and wait another year-plus for all the red tape with our own vaccine.
It will take at least 12 months to even see if it's safe and effective. Virus vaccine development is extremely difficult.
Our best hope is an antiviral treatment in the next 12 months, that you can take that could stop the virus earlier. Something like Gilead's remdesivir
Posted on 4/5/20 at 6:19 pm to UltimaParadox
The covid 19 specific antibody test needs to roll out .. not just for coronavirus but specific I hope to 19
Posted on 4/5/20 at 6:22 pm to UltimaParadox
quote:
Our best hope is an antiviral treatment in the next 12 months, that you can take that could stop the virus earlier. Something like Gilead's remdesivir
In 12 months we'll be well on our way to natural herd immunity, and have a bunch more dead people and a wrecked global economy. Our best hope right now is a drug that is already on the market, that can be manufactured cheaply and quickly using an already established large global manufacturing capacity, that has a well known safety profile over many decades of heavy use, and that is already being used in Covid-19 around the world due to preliminary indications of efficacy if given early after the onset of symptoms, coupled with a 15 year history of demonstrated antiviral activity in Coronavirus models. But some people in this country have apparently already ruled that one out because a politician they dislike made the mistake of mentioning the drug as a potential "game changer".
This post was edited on 4/5/20 at 6:59 pm
Posted on 4/5/20 at 7:26 pm to rds dc
quote:
Overall, things are certainly starting to move in the right direction as the benefits of Social Distancing are starting to show up.
Posted on 4/5/20 at 7:49 pm to rds dc
quote:
Overall, things are certainly starting to move in the right direction as the benefits of Social Distancing are starting to show up.
Yes like people losing jobs and years of savings.
Posted on 4/5/20 at 7:57 pm to little billy
quote:
I honestly believe the actual number of people with covid is in the hundreds of millions globally. Most people just fight it off.
The county in Colorado just tested over 8,000 people to find out how widespread the virus was there.
Only 1% tested positive. The idea that hundreds of millions have already gotten this, and we are already well on our way to herd immunity ... well, I understand why that's an appealing idea, but it's not true.
We have Iceland's tests as well as those from Vo, Italy backing that up. Germany is about to randomly test 200,000 people, so we'll get more confirmation of this soon.
Posted on 4/5/20 at 7:59 pm to GOP_Tiger
quote:
The county in Colorado just tested over 8,000 people to find out how widespread the virus was there.
Did they do antibody testing? If not, the results don’t show shite.
Posted on 4/5/20 at 8:02 pm to UltimaParadox
quote:
It will take at least 12 months to even see if it's safe and effective. Virus vaccine development is extremely difficult.
You can safely speed some things up with enough investment. Perhaps you missed the news that the US medical community is partnering up, with Johnson & Johnson leading the way, with a play to make a billion doses of a vaccine next spring. They are spending over $1 billion in R&D for this vaccine. They have a top choice and two backup vaccines, in case their lead candidate doesn't pan out.
LINK
Posted on 4/5/20 at 8:02 pm to wdhalgren
quote:
In 12 months we'll be well on our way to natural herd immunity, and have a bunch more dead people and a wrecked global economy.
I think I might have been misunderstood. In the 12 month gap between now and a vaccine.
Antivirals like remdesivir, could be available as soon as a couple of weeks. It is already in phase 3 trials in multiple places all over the world. It works similar to Tamiflu, by blocking the virus from replicating. I think if proven effective and we ramp up testing similar to the flu it could be highly effective in reducing the strain on hospitals. Basically if you test positive you could become treatment and it would basically minimize the symptoms.
Obviously producing this drug in mass with so many cases, we would need in the short term only focus at risk individuals.
This post was edited on 4/5/20 at 11:43 pm
Posted on 4/5/20 at 8:06 pm to GOP_Tiger
quote:
You can safely speed some things up with enough investment. Perhaps you missed the news that the US medical community is partnering up, with Johnson & Johnson leading the way, with a play to make a billion doses of a vaccine next spring. They are spending over $1 billion in R&D for this vaccine. They have a top choice and two backup vaccines, in case their lead candidate doesn't pan out.
Agreed, 12 months is extremely fast for a vaccine. J&J along with Moderna who is even further along showing some positive results.
I'm not doubting they can do it. I just don't think it is physically possible to have the proper clinical trials to see a vaccine in the next 12 months for something that is completely new. Too many variables you have to test.
I believe antivirals will be our best stop gap between now and then IMO
Posted on 4/5/20 at 8:08 pm to Lsut81
quote:
If not, the results don’t show shite.
Uh, yeah they do. If vast swaths of the public were getting the virus and developing antibodies right now, a significant portion of them would have to be currently positive for the virus.
I would love to see the mathematical model for how hundreds of millions across the world have gotten the virus and developed antibodies, when random testing shows that asymptomatics no more than the number of those with symptoms. Please show me how that math works.
Page 1005 of 1190
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News