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re: Cornell University Situation Is Going To Turn Into Another Duke Lacrosse Case Isn't It?

Posted on 10/3/26 at 9:22 am to
Posted by SaintsForever83
Member since Sep 2026
30 posts
Posted on 10/3/26 at 9:22 am to
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In this very thread, people have done exactly that.


What happened? By her own text messages, she consented. She then changed her story after she got known to be a hoe and started receiving backlash. She changed her story after she regretted the experience. Regret is not Rape.
Posted by Free888
Member since Oct 2019
3558 posts
Posted on 10/3/26 at 9:48 am to
I wonder if the boyfriend is new, and her past came back to haunt her. She might be doing damage control to prove she wasn’t a slut.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
76584 posts
Posted on 10/3/26 at 9:58 am to
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By her own text messages, she consented. She then changed her story after she got known to be a hoe and started receiving backlash. She changed her story after she regretted the experience. Regret is not Rape.


that’s a bingo.
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
369 Cardboard Box Lane
Member since Nov 2019
14652 posts
Posted on 10/3/26 at 10:43 am to
I just drove by Jane Doe's house. Kind of crazy how quiet it is and the thought that none of their neighbors know Jane is involved in one on the biggest stories in the country right now.
This post was edited on 10/3/26 at 10:45 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
Spiced groves of ceaseless verdure
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 10/3/26 at 10:56 am to
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My guess is she told a friend and they said she was raped because she looked like a whore after her friend judged her

Problem for her is the story she told the cops showed no assault but she’s keeping it up to hopefully get paid
Your guess is dead-on correct.

She did not file her police complaint and do a rape kit for 2 1/2 wks.
In the meantime, the story had gone campus-wide. She got disinvited to the Frat's Halloween Party. That seems to have been the coup de grâce.

Her report was excruciatingly explicit and detailed. It was not an interview transcript. It was a 6-page single-spaced typed description in her own words.

At no point did she describe nonconsensual actions.

For example, at one point, she was engaged in a threesome with a drunk guy passed out on the bed next to the three of them. He woke up and proposed making it a foursome, but she said she refused .... because she "knew that would mean anal sex." She did "snort ketamine off of his penis" though. Later, she had a separate threesome with him. That's by her account.

All of it was forwarded to the DA who declined to prosecute.

Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
2027 posts
Posted on 10/3/26 at 11:27 am to
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Before heading to a Tri-Delta event at a bar in Ithaca, a now 20-year-old Doe drank vodka at her sorority house “until she was intoxicated,” the complaint said.

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The bar’s bouncer marked an “X” on each of her hands to signify she was under 21 but she was still served at least one drink inside, the suit says.

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Doe left the second bar alone and walked to the Chi Phi fraternity house to see a friend

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“When Plaintiff arrived at XI CHAPTER’s fraternity house, Plaintiff was visibly intoxicated as she had consumed about 10 standard drinks within the past 3 hours,” the complaint says. Inside, the suit alleges, the friend gave Doe a beer

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the friend and another fraternity member allegedly pressured Doe into snorting a substance they described as ketamine and gave her more alcohol

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Doe said she remembered consuming a “heavy amount” of ketamine, smoking marijuana and having “various things” poured on her body. She said she initially agreed to having drugs consumed off her body while feeling “extremely tired” but “couldn’t tell what they were pouring on me,” WCBS reports, citing the transcript.

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“I felt like due to my intoxication, they should have known how intoxicated I was based on how I was slurring my words,” the statement reads.


This is maddening, for so many reasons. Ladies, you have agency over your own bodies. Period. Don't slam alcohol and head by yourself to a frat house, do a bunch of drugs, and then blame the guys for not knowing how drunk/high you were. By this logic, the guys were also drunk/high and couldn't make decisions either. It sounds like the guy who sent the text was also drunk/high. My eyeballs need a bath after reading this story.
Posted by Breadcrumbs
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2005
3045 posts
Posted on 10/3/26 at 11:46 am to
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if white liberal men aren't safe at Ivy League Schools, where can they be safe?


how about you just refrain from showing up at an orgy, doing ketamine on a young girl with 6 of your best friends and ending up in a trial where consent might be an issue? Just don't show up for that; you'll be safe. If you don't want to see your daughter or your sister in a situation like that, then don't show up for it. Can you see how that situation wasn't safe and how it's different from just attending an Ivy League School? You act like walking down the street might get you accused of rape.
Posted by Stat M Repairman
Member since Jun 2023
3814 posts
Posted on 10/3/26 at 11:56 am to
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drunk guy passed out on the bed next to the three of them. He woke up and proposed making it a foursome, but she said she refused .... because she "knew that would mean anal sex." She did "snort ketamine off of his penis" though. Later, she had a separate threesome with him


Sounds like some sort of a negotiation took place.

Dude uses Trump's 'Art of the Deal' negotiating strategy of taking an extreme position right out the gate, then backs off and eventually gets to a yes.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
100218 posts
Posted on 10/3/26 at 12:08 pm to
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Dude uses Trump's 'Art of the Deal' negotiating strategy of taking an extreme position right out the gate, then backs off and eventually gets to a yes.


indeed
Posted by Stat M Repairman
Member since Jun 2023
3814 posts
Posted on 10/3/26 at 12:23 pm to
Seems like she might've been a high-T young lady.

Alleged video going around of her deadlifting 8-plates.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
33136 posts
Posted on 10/3/26 at 12:29 pm to
How is prosecuting these guys not a clear, objective abuse of the criminal process?

Doesn’t the police report alone objectively establish reasonable doubt?

I would go so far as to say that it’s beyond a reasonable doubt there is already reasonable doubt.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Spiced groves of ceaseless verdure
Member since Sep 2003
142021 posts
Posted on 10/3/26 at 12:39 pm to
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Alleged video going around of her deadlifting 8-plates.
That is not her ... unless she put on about 50lbs.
Posted by Stat M Repairman
Member since Jun 2023
3814 posts
Posted on 10/3/26 at 12:40 pm to
This is Big Letty's rice-bowl.

Appointed her special prosecutor and she's built a career on it.

Was all fun and games when it was deployed against Trump, but now it's somebody's kids.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Spiced groves of ceaseless verdure
Member since Sep 2003
142021 posts
Posted on 10/3/26 at 12:41 pm to
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How is prosecuting these guys not a clear, objective abuse of the criminal process?
Well, it is the same system that found for E Jean Carroll
Posted by Stat M Repairman
Member since Jun 2023
3814 posts
Posted on 10/3/26 at 12:49 pm to
She did somehow get hooked up with a big time Manhattan plaintiff's firm like E Jean. Facts look bad from what we know but they see some meat on the bone.
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
3157 posts
Posted on 10/3/26 at 12:51 pm to
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How could kids smart enough to get into Cornell be dumb enough to do something like this?


You’re overestimating their intelligence.

Harvard and other “top notch” universities are admitting students who need remedial classes in reading, writing, and basic math.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
31237 posts
Posted on 10/3/26 at 12:57 pm to
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All of it was forwarded to the DA who declined to prosecute


But now Big Tish is on it and will 100% find a way to prosecute guilty or not.

It’s all theatre with her fat arse
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
39497 posts
Posted on 10/3/26 at 1:01 pm to
All twitter seems to think is 7 guys sprinkled ketamine on their dick and fricked her and put ketamine in her system that way

Just delusional people
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
75581 posts
Posted on 10/3/26 at 1:09 pm to
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"She never says that she was drugged without her knowledge. She admits to taking drugs and alcohol voluntarily and with knowledge. She does not allege that she was forced to engage in any acts. She does not say that she was physically helpless or unconscious or incapacitated at any point during the time at the fraternity house," Van Houten said.

Van Houten said that he considered Jane Doe, the alleged victim, credible. He also said neither Jane Doe nor her attorneys ever contacted his office to ask for reconsideration of her case or to suggest that her sworn statement was inaccurate


Posted by Stat M Repairman
Member since Jun 2023
3814 posts
Posted on 10/3/26 at 1:09 pm to
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snorting a substance they described as ketamine


All this seems more like coke behavior, no?

What's the chances this was really coke and not ketamine?

Girl said she never had ketamine before, so how would she know.
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