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Coral Gables man who refuses to give up property hit with code violations

Posted on 3/2/24 at 11:57 am
Posted by Street Hawk
Member since Nov 2014
3459 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 11:57 am
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For years, Coral Gables homeowner Orlando Capote has resisted attempts to buy him out, even as a new mixed-use development took over the rest of the neighborhood.

LINK

Pathetic!
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
7542 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 12:09 pm to
If the guy doesn't want to sell that is his right.

The mixed use development is a purely commercial enterprise and is not a reason to use eminent domain and force the guy off the property.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
18895 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 12:15 pm to
Federal courts have held that they can force you out of your home to sell it to a commercial enterprise. Their reasoning is that the taxes that will be paid are more of a benefit than you keeping what is yours. I hate it.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
30390 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 12:21 pm to
I've seen this movie.



Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30024 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 12:32 pm to
Government is the enemy.
Posted by evil cockroach
27.98N // 86.92E
Member since Nov 2007
7455 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 12:36 pm to
While I hate eminent domain for commercial reasons , don’t you usually get offered like 2X the value?

Shoot , if somebody wanted to offer me what twice my home value is today , I gladly have the moving van there this afternoon
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
118943 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 12:36 pm to
It's not your property if the govt wants it.
Posted by TRUERockyTop
Appalachia
Member since Sep 2011
15812 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 12:37 pm to
That made me a lot angrier than expected.
Posted by UncleRuckus
Member since Feb 2013
7635 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 12:39 pm to
quote:

Government is the enemy

Everyone really should understand this
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
118943 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 12:46 pm to
quote:

Everyone really should understand this


They should, and it can be changed if enough people want to change it.

We only need like 10-25% of the taxes and laws we have to have a functioning society
Posted by PhillyTiger90
Member since Dec 2015
10667 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 12:49 pm to
That would be a GoFundMe I’d contribute to

But I guarantee those government crooks would get that taken down with the quickness
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
26985 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 12:50 pm to
quote:

If the guy doesn't want to sell that is his right. The mixed use development is a purely commercial enterprise and is not a reason to use eminent domain and force the guy off the property.


Kelo v. City of New London is one of the worst decisions in the history of SCOTUS: LINK
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63196 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 1:01 pm to
They drank his milkshake.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
29911 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

While I hate eminent domain for commercial reasons , don’t you usually get offered like 2X the value?



no, hell no, its not even close

THEY, not you, decide what its worth and that is all you get for it. in most cases, if you are lucky, you maybe get 60% of what its real market value is
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
11149 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 1:36 pm to
quote:

Government is the enemy

quote:

Everyone really should understand this

Our founding fathers did, but they were a bunch of boomers that lived 250 years ago. So, I guess the cool thing is to ignore their wisdom.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94877 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 1:58 pm to
And OTOH, you can demand way too much to sell and they will find a way around you that still fricks you.


There is a guy in Zachary who tried demanding 3x what was offered for his property when they were going to be widening the highway as part of a development. (IIRC, he was offered about $250-300k AND a house in the new neighborhood going up to replace his on the property)

After that high a demand, they decided that they could just take the edge of his property via eminent domain rather than continue to negotiate with him.

He has had a sign up bitching about it ever since.
Posted by Thundercles
Mars
Member since Sep 2010
5031 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 2:08 pm to
Some people in this thread didn't watch the video. There is nothing about eminent domain in this. It's the city levying bullshite code enforcements.

In most states you can't use eminent domain for commercial use. That's why they're hitting him with fines so they can lien his property and take it over.
Posted by OGTiger
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2005
2068 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 4:46 pm to
Just to piss them off, I would turn my residence into a commercial business to meet code enforcement.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25570 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 5:41 pm to
quote:

Kelo v. City of New London is one of the worst decisions in the history of SCOTUS


JPS went wild with that opinion. It always surprised me that Justice Kennedy was the swing vote with all his libertarian leanings.

I admit there is a decent argument under the 5A takings clause but it is just bad policy and many states have remedied it in their own constitution/codified law.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
1381 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 5:57 pm to
This is so wrong.
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