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re: Cops Steal $91,800 From a Musician, Claiming He Gave It to Them

Posted on 12/5/17 at 12:05 pm to
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 12:05 pm to
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I'd have simply asked the troopers, 'Am I under arrest?'...especially after reading the document.


And they would have said, "You dont have to be. Sign the document and you can go free."

Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31597 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 12:18 pm to
CAF has to go. Not tightened up, not reformed. Eliminated. There will always be loopholes and ways around it if allowed to stay, and it creates an incentive for highway robbery by law enforcement. I have no idea why anyone could support this, and it should be way more of an issue in the national spotlight than it is.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 12:27 pm to
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It's his right to do it, but come on, put it in a bank.



obviously you dont know that if you deposit or withdraw large amounts of cash the bank is "required by law" to call the police on you as a suspected drug dealer or some other illegal activity.

yes you will be put under police surveillance if you move large sums of cash around.

they define "large sum" as anything over $1k, at which time you are flagged as "suspicious drug related activity" and any amounts over $3k are enough to have them start up an investigation into everything you do.

i took $10k cash out of the bank to go by a car with and the bank and the car dealership both reported me to the police and IRS as a "person of interest" to be checked out. the IRS even sent me a letter demanding i "explain" why i made such a large cash purchase.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30767 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 12:43 pm to
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Parhamovich had earned the money legally, largely by fixing guitars and selling old farmhouses after renovating them. He brought the cash with him when he went on tour because he worried that it wouldn't be safe at his apartment in Madison. He planned to used $80,000 of it for a down payment on a Madison recording studio he was in the process of buying.


lololol yeah ok
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91874 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 12:52 pm to
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i took $10k cash out of the bank to go by a car with and the bank and the car dealership both reported me to the police and IRS as a "person of interest" to be checked out. the IRS even sent me a letter demanding i "explain" why i made such a large cash purchase.


I despise Civil Asset Forfeiture, but surely you understand that large cash purchases are often the source for money laundering/tax evasion, no?

I'm sympathetic for individuals who get caught up in the mess, but in 2017 it's reasonable to believe that $10k+ cash transactions will result in legal issues.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
15281 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 2:00 pm to
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And they would have said, "You dont have to be. Sign the document and you can go free." 


And I would have immediately searched for Utah lawyers on my phone. And contacted one.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
60201 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 2:53 pm to
It's disgusting how few of y'all back the badge. This guy was driving a van full of music equipment and has tattoos on his arms of course he sells drugs
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19366 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:13 pm to
But but but where were the good cops?
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:42 pm to
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in 2017 it's reasonable to believe that $10k+ cash transactions will result in legal issues.


so you think its "reasonable" to have the IRS asking you about buying a used car for $10k cash?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91874 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 5:30 pm to
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so you think its "reasonable" to have the IRS asking you about buying a used car for $10k cash?


I think the IRS has a reasonable basis for inquiring about a $10k cash purchase in 2017.
That doesn't mean you owe them an explanation, but I understand why their interested. It's perfectly legal, but it's an action often done with illicit funds.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30767 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 5:37 pm to
Yeah, guy keeps all that cash in his apartment.

Cause Banks wouldn't work, amirite? Safe Deposit box wouldn't work.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91874 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 5:41 pm to
quote:

Yeah, guy keeps all that cash in his apartment.

Cause Banks wouldn't work, amirite? Safe Deposit box wouldn't work.


I'm always very skeptical of the legality of these funds, but I don't condone CAF. Catching a criminal shouldn't infringe on the rights of the innocent, even if they're the minority.
This post was edited on 12/5/17 at 6:05 pm
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
23317 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 6:19 pm to
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Cops would've confiscated the F out of that gold brick.


Drug dog wouldn't have sniffed out a gold brick.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 8:16 pm to
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obviously you dont know that if you deposit or withdraw large amounts of cash the bank is "required by law" to call the police on you as a suspected drug dealer or some other illegal activity


Not quite as bad as you make it sound. They do have to report it, but that doesn't mean anything bad happens to you.

In fact, just today I helped my mom transfer nearly $20k as part of her required minimum IRA distribution. I'm sure a report was made but it's a legit transfer that she is required by law to make, nothing is going to happen.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 8:22 pm to
They should have to pay interest on the money.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49697 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 8:49 pm to
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Cops would've confiscated the F out of that gold brick.


Drug dog wouldn't have sniffed out a gold brick.



Drug dog didn’t sniff out the cash. Or any drugs for that matter. Drug dog saw the tennis ball and sat. The signal to search.

And there are many people in this country that are afraid of banks and after what we came through have good reason. No different than my grandparents and their generation hiding money under the mattress after the depression after losing it during the run on the banks. And he was somewhat transient and felt the best place to keep it was with him.

They wonder why people generally distrust them. Because there are plenty across the country just like them and apparently this went to the top of the department.

Look no further than the La. State Police and the shite they have done in the last year here. Or the shite they got caught doing.
Posted by Lutcher Lad
South of the Mason-Dixon Line
Member since Sep 2009
7837 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 8:56 am to
Couldn't have been Mike Edmonston, huh?
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