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Cops Steal $91,800 From a Musician, Claiming He Gave It to Them
Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:00 am
Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:00 am
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TL,DR: Cops find $92k in a musician's van, scare him into thinking that having that much cash is somehow a bad thing and make him sign it over to them.
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According to the story the Wyoming Attorney General's Office is telling, Phil Parhamovich was moved during a traffic stop last March to donate $91,800, his life savings, to the state's Division of Criminal Investigation to help it wage the war on drugs. Parhamovich's version is rather more plausible: He says state police took his money after pressuring him to sign a "waiver" that circumvented even the limited protections offered by Wyoming's civil asset forfeiture law. Today Parhamovich is in state court, trying to get his money back with help from the Institute for Justice, which argues that Wyoming's roadside waivers are a thin disguise for highway robbery
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Parhamovich, a Wisconsin musician, was on his way to a gig in Salt Lake City on March 13 when a state trooper, Jeramy Pittsley, pulled him over on Interstate 80 in Laramie County for failing to buckle his seat belt. The stop turned into an interrogation, during which Pittsley asked, "Is there anything in your vehicle I should know about, such as guns, drugs, large amounts of cash, methamphetamines, heroin, cocaine, marijuana, PCP, LSD, etc.?" Parhamovich, startled that Pittsley suddenly suspected him of criminal activity, said no. Pittsley walked a drug-sniffing dog around Parhamovich's minivan. "At first," the Institute for Justice says, "the dog seemed to find nothing interesting about the vehicle. Then, the trooper gestured with what appeared to be a hidden tennis ball, and the dog responded." The cops used that "alert" as an excuse to search the minivan, and eventually they found $91,800 inside a speaker cabinet. The cops were so excited by their discovery that they high-fived each other. The windfall also apparently made them forget that there was no trace of the drugs that Pittsley's dog supposedly had detected.
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Parhamovich had earned the money legally, largely by fixing guitars and selling old farmhouses after renovating them. He brought the cash with him when he went on tour because he worried that it wouldn't be safe at his apartment in Madison. He planned to used $80,000 of it for a down payment on a Madison recording studio he was in the process of buying.
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Now the troopers were insinuating that there was something illegal about carrying that much cash. There isn't, but Parhamovich was so intimidated that he initially denied the money was his, saying the speakers and the cash belonged to a friend. Despite that denial, the troopers presented him with a waiver saying, "I...the owner of the property or currency described below, desire to give this property or currency, along with any and all interests and ownership that I may have in it, to the State of Wyoming, Division of Criminal Investigation, to be used for narcotics law enforcement purposes." Because he had the impression that he would not be free to go otherwise, Parhamovich signed the form without understanding the legal consequences. The waiver Parhamovich signed is aimed at getting around Wyoming's civil forfeiture rules, which the state legislature had tightened just a year before. The 2016 reforms included a requirement that law enforcement agencies prove seized property is connected to a crime by "clear and convincing evidence," a tougher test than the "preponderance of the evidence" standard it replaced. The legislation also mandated a probable cause hearing within 30 days of a seizure, required that property owners receive 15 days' notice of forfeiture hearings, and allowed judges to award them damages and attorney's fees when they successfully challenge forfeitures. But because Parhamovich "voluntarily" signed away his property, the cops did not have to worry about any of that.
TL,DR: Cops find $92k in a musician's van, scare him into thinking that having that much cash is somehow a bad thing and make him sign it over to them.
This post was edited on 12/5/17 at 10:04 am
Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:02 am to RedRifle
1st thing, how about a TL;DR?
Second,
Second,
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to donate $91,800, his life savings
This post was edited on 12/5/17 at 10:03 am
Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:04 am to RedRifle
How is this any different from the Mafia strong-arming small businessmen for payments every week? These stories make people despise police.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:06 am to RedRifle
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He brought the cash with him when he went on tour because he worried that it wouldn't be safe at his apartment in Madison
Or a bank apparently.
This post was edited on 12/5/17 at 10:07 am
Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:06 am to RedRifle
The cops are apparently highway robbers hiding behind a badge according to this story, but why the hell do you carry around that kind of cash? It's his right to do it, but come on, put it in a bank.
This post was edited on 12/5/17 at 10:06 am
Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:12 am to Peazey
Well let's not blame this on the guy legally carrying cash.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:15 am to CaptainsWafer
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Well let's not blame this on the guy legally carrying cash.
Not blame but hot damn dude it's 91,000 and all the money to his name. At least buy freaking bitcoin with it. Or a gold brick.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:17 am to ShreveportHog94
Cops would've confiscated the F out of that gold brick.
And the OT would've told him he's poor with only $91k with of bitcoin.
It's a lose lose.
And the OT would've told him he's poor with only $91k with of bitcoin.
It's a lose lose.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:18 am to RedRifle
Good thing he complied, otherwise a tragic misunderstanding could have happened.
Ah yes the old "go fetch the probable cause tennis ball trick". Its amazing how that tends to work everytime .
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"At first," the Institute for Justice says, "the dog seemed to find nothing interesting about the vehicle. Then, the trooper gestured with what appeared to be a hidden tennis ball, and the dog responded." The cops used that "alert" as an excuse to search the minivan, and eventually they found $91,800 inside a speaker cabinet.
Ah yes the old "go fetch the probable cause tennis ball trick". Its amazing how that tends to work everytime .
This post was edited on 12/5/17 at 10:23 am
Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:20 am to CaptainsWafer
Just because he's the victim here doesn't mean that it's not stupid to carry around that kind of cash. It's his right, and the cops are criminal for taking. But it's still dumb as hell to just drive around with it.
This post was edited on 12/5/17 at 10:21 am
Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:21 am to ShreveportHog94
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Or a gold brick.
"Cops steal gold brick"
Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:22 am to Peazey
I agree, but your previous post sounded like it's his fault it was taken just because he was carrying it.
ETA Like a "don't carry cash and it won't get stolen" type of post, when it should be "Gd cops shouldn't be stealing."
ETA Like a "don't carry cash and it won't get stolen" type of post, when it should be "Gd cops shouldn't be stealing."
This post was edited on 12/5/17 at 10:23 am
Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:24 am to Peazey
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Just because he's the victim here doesn't mean that it's not stupid to carry around that kind of cash. It's his right, and the cops are criminal for taking. But it's still dumb as hell to just drive around with it.
Apparently the major threat to carrying that much around is the cops. Never hear a peep about "thugs carjack and rob musician of $90k" ...unless the thugs are wearing uniforms.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:26 am to RedRifle
I can't understand how anyone here can support civil forfeiture.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:28 am to RedRifle
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Despite that denial, the troopers presented him with a waiver saying, "I...the owner of the property or currency described below, desire to give this property or currency, along with any and all interests and ownership that I may have in it, to the State of Wyoming, Division of Criminal Investigation, to be used for narcotics law enforcement purposes." Because he had the impression that he would not be free to go otherwise, Parhamovich signed the form without understanding the legal consequences
Guy isn't too bright.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:29 am to Napoleon
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I can't understand how anyone here can support civil forfeiture.
Its generally discouraged to disobey police orders, or risk bodily injury, prison time, or death.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:30 am to RedRifle
The Blue Mafia - "protecting" and serving.
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