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re: Conspiracy nuts: How was John Wilkes Booth allowed to get into the presidential box?
Posted on 7/16/22 at 10:03 am to UndercoverBryologist
Posted on 7/16/22 at 10:03 am to UndercoverBryologist
I've been watching a lot of old videos on youtube of people from the 1800s talking about life then. Makes me wish my grandparents were still around so I could talk to them about the old days more.
Anyway, they have one of a man who was there in Ford's theatre that night LINK.
Anyway, they have one of a man who was there in Ford's theatre that night LINK.
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 10:38 am to UndercoverBryologist
12-part essay by Dave McGowan.
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Baker left behind cryptic notes alluding to a conspiracy behind the Lincoln assassination involving eleven members of Congress, twelve US Army officers, three US Navy officers, one governor, five bankers, three nationally known newspapermen, and eleven wealthy industrialists.
There is nothing nutty about this conspiracy.
Facts is facts.
Center for an informed America
Posted on 7/16/22 at 10:39 am to UndercoverBryologist
In those days, the president would walk around unprotected. The massive security detail is a new thing.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 10:40 am to tide06
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There was no real secret service back then, just random police or soldiers who would sometimes be asked to do it.
This. Back in Lincoln's day he could walk out the door if the White House and walk down the street by himself...
Posted on 7/16/22 at 10:41 am to UndercoverBryologist
The Clintons?
Posted on 7/16/22 at 10:45 am to Ponchy Tiger
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There little to no protection for the President back then. I think that as late 1900 you could just walk up to the White House and visit.
Lincoln spent a considerable amount of his time each day meeting with citizens and answering letters.
A former slave dropped by the White House late that afternoon. Her husband had served in the Union Army, and she was concerned about missing paychecks. Lincoln told her he’d inquire about the issue, and reassured her that soldiers owed money would still get paid even if the war was winding down and many were returning to civilian life.
His last official duty as President was meeting with a woman complaining about her husband’s pay.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 10:51 am to GetmorewithLes
Booth had access. Because he was a prominent actor, Booth could do pretty much whatever he wanted in the theatre without raising suspicion.
Lincoln didn’t like personal security. He often dismissed those responsible for guarding his safety because he didn’t like the appearance of being above the citizenry. The man assigned to Lincoln that night was a drunk, even on the evening of the assassination.
Lincoln didn’t like personal security. He often dismissed those responsible for guarding his safety because he didn’t like the appearance of being above the citizenry. The man assigned to Lincoln that night was a drunk, even on the evening of the assassination.
This post was edited on 7/16/22 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 7/16/22 at 10:55 am to Ghost of Colby
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His last official duty as President was meeting with a woman complaining about her husband’s pay.
Listen fats. We aint got time for that anymore. Btw you aint black unless you vote democrat.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 11:06 am to UndercoverBryologist
There was a massive conspiracy that night to decapitate the United States government. Lincoln wasn’t the only target. An assassin was assigned to take out Vice-President Andrew Johnson but he chickened out and went to a bar to drink instead. Another assassin attacked Secretary of State William Seward but he survived the encounter. And then there was an assassin sent after Ulysses S. Grant, the General-in-Chief of the U.S. Army, but he couldn’t get close enough to make an attempt on his life.
This post was edited on 7/16/22 at 11:07 am
Posted on 7/16/22 at 11:14 am to tide06
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There was no real secret service back then, just random police or soldiers who would sometimes be asked to do it.
Yep. Infamous America has a great podcast on JWB. Explains a lot…if they are correct. Fantastic story about him trying to escape afterwards.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 11:23 am to dcw7g
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In the early days of the presidency you could walk right in to the his office. He was supposed to be a servant of the people. A more idealistic time.
You could walk up to the front door all the way until the day after Pearl Harbor.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 11:24 am to jbird7
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The policeman assigned to Lincoln’s booth at the theatre seemed to have a drinking problem. He would eventually be fired for being drunk on the job a few years later.
Oh so allowing the murder of the president is fine, but having a little pick me up during a long shift is a step too far?
Posted on 7/16/22 at 11:34 am to Stealth Matrix
The day the government became the enemy.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 11:42 am to diat150
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Listen fats. We aint got time for that anymore. Btw you aint black unless you vote democrat.
Lincoln was a Republican
Posted on 7/16/22 at 11:59 am to LookSquirrel
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There is nothing nutty about this conspiracy. Facts is facts.
Just imagine had Booth not been successful in assassinating Lincoln. Would the Civil War ended the way it did, with Reconstruction as bad as it was for the South?
Posted on 7/16/22 at 12:02 pm to mulletproof
The turd in the punchbowl..
Posted on 7/16/22 at 12:22 pm to TigerintheNO
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Lincoln was a Republican
I see things like this mentioned fairly often, and it’s a very weak argument. The two major parties of today don’t even resemble what they were in the Civil War/Reconstruction era. My grandparents were staunch Democrats, and they would be sickened by that party today.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 12:43 pm to Athis
I always felt bad for that woman that got executed over the Lincoln assassination. I think she owned the bar where Wilkes and others made their plans. To her death she claimed she had no idea what those people were discussing.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 12:49 pm to Gee Grenouille
Mary Surratt, and she owned the boarding house where the plot was conceived and made. I’m not saying that she was necessarily in on it, but I don’t see how she wasn’t at least aware of it.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 12:50 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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There little to no protection for the President back then. I think that as late 1900 you could just walk up to the White House and visit.
The President didn’t become what we think of the President today until Teddy Roosevelt. Before TR most Presidents were basically nobodies with limited power. TR massively expanded the office into its modern role.
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