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re: Coming back into the US and noticing all the fats walking around
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:45 am to RealityTiger
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:45 am to RealityTiger
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And if you don't live an active lifestyle, the rice is bad for you.
explain this to me like i am 7 and bring the sources please
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I could go get some chicken rice and beans and make smothered chicken with beans
did i say that...grill the damn chicken, cook the rice and cook the beans seperate, combine and season for a very healthy meal.
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Now do the same thing but get some chicken and some fresh green veggies and compare the ticket at the register.
please explain and bring studies that prove one needs fresh green veggies to be healthy.
let me help you and stop you from wasting time, you are not using scientific data to back up your claims and are simply posting dogma and myths that we have dozens upon dozens showing to be untrue.
you are also letting the thought that one must be perfect on a diet or its useless cloud your thoughts.
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Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:46 am to RealityTiger
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I'm done. Here comes the little yip yip dog to play the role of the contrarian.
I'm asking you to explain your position and if you haven't noticed, you have the contrarian position in this thread
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:46 am to RealityTiger
Asians eat rice a lot and seem to be doing ok.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:46 am to weagle99
HFCS is the primary issue for fat America.
Try and avoid HFCS. It's incredibly difficult.
If you are dying for HFCS get you fructose from unprocessed fruits. At least most of the fructose in fruits are bound up in fiber and you will pass most of it.
Try and avoid HFCS. It's incredibly difficult.
If you are dying for HFCS get you fructose from unprocessed fruits. At least most of the fructose in fruits are bound up in fiber and you will pass most of it.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:48 am to Hu_Flung_Pu
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You are conflating fat loss and overall body composition and the psychiatry of a normal person. Water weight, gut issues, gas, mood, and other contributing factors are with food choices, not just calories. Diet integrity is the number one priority when losing weight
well when the average american male has a body fat percentage in the mid 30s.....yea not worrying about anything but calories and protein at that point. get down to 15% and we can talk and discuss all the other shite.
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Scientific tests can say one thing but the real-world application is what matters. You understand this as you are an engineer. Scientists can say High performance concrete is the way to go but businesses and workers ain't gonna use it as it's expensive and difficult to work with.
but in this case, we have decades of data proving in the real world it works too.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:48 am to CrimsonTideMD
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Calories in >>> calories out. It's that simple.
Agreed, but a highly processed food with lots of fructose is less satiating and more calorie dense than a whole food.
I struggle with “choices” when I eat sugary cereal in the morning. Im going to want a burger, fries, and dessert at lunch and donuts for an afternoon snack. And still feel kinda hungry soon after.
Eggs, avocado, and oatmeal for breakfast, and I don’t feel the same kind of hunger pangs.
Throw in a little intermittent fasting and it gets even easier.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:48 am to lsu777
You're right. It's way cheaper to load up on fresh beef, chicken, fish, veggies than it is to get fast food for every meal and/or run to the mac and cheese section.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:48 am to lsu777
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lsu777
I see you skipped over my comment and later said the same thing, Pussy.
JK miss y'all on HFB
eta nvm, see you found it
This post was edited on 5/16/22 at 9:49 am
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:49 am to SpyBoy
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Even take "fitness" as an example: If you asked a Dutch man what he considered to be fit, he'd likely reference being lean and/or something related to cardiovascular health. If you ask a teenager in America, he'd likely reference something related to strength training or body building and getting "big."
Not saying strength training is bad, of course, just showing the difference in priorities and mindset.
hate to break it to you, but americans would be right in this case. Weight lifitng or resistance training in general is the number 1 activity for health.
problem is less than 10% of the population in america lift and prolly only about 25% of those do it properly.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:50 am to RealityTiger
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You're right. It's way cheaper to load up on fresh beef, chicken, fish, veggies than it is to get fast food
I can cook a hamburger locally with fresh beef and it will be cheaper than a burger at the local McDonalds, if the same size.
This post was edited on 5/16/22 at 9:51 am
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:50 am to Keltic Tiger
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Look in the grocery baskets of obese shoppers here, then notice the size of their children with them.
2 giant fat women in line in front of me at Albertsons. Two shopping carts, not one fresh fruit or vegetable seen. They had chicken and pork and beef so good for that I guess, but the rest were chips, gatorades, soft drinks, crackers, and cookies.
Now with the total amount they had it’s very possible they were also shopping for a party or for a sports team (it is baseball season) or a big gathering but my mind INSTANTLY jumped to judgement. It was wrong but damn if I’m not there.
And I’m fat, I’m just making be try small changes to be less fat. Once I’m less fat I’ll start pushing further to actually get in shape.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:50 am to Hu_Flung_Pu
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I see you skipped over my comment and later said the same thing, Pussy.
frick OFF !!
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JK miss y'all on HFB
eta nvm, see you found it
man the thread jumped to like 5 pages quickly. i actually do work sometimes
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:50 am to RealityTiger
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You're right. It's way cheaper to load up on fresh beef, chicken, fish, veggies than it is to get fast food for every meal and/or run to the mac and cheese section.
It absolutely can be if you ain't a fatass.
Costco is goat
rice is about $0.25 a serving from costco
chicken is about $1.50 a serving
veggies are less than $1.00
beef (even prime ribeye) is about $10
eggs are cheap
Average McDonalds meal is about $7-$8 plus gas to get there.
This post was edited on 5/16/22 at 9:58 am
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:56 am to weagle99
You’d think the average 5’ 4” Baw would get a workout from climbing up into the F 350 several times a day.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:56 am to weagle99
There’s no such things as fat genetics. That’s an excuse fatties use. “Omg I have a thyroid issue”
It’s unwalkable cities and towns coupled with our horrible foods.
It’s unwalkable cities and towns coupled with our horrible foods.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:56 am to RealityTiger
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You're gonna make some type of gravy.
Considering with red and black beans, the gravy is simply the beans cooking down with seasoning how is that bad for you?
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:57 am to RealityTiger
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I'm done. Here comes the little yip yip dog to play the role of the contrarian.
nobody is playing contratian....you are letting dogma cloud your views
in no world is using plain white rice to fill up your calories after you have met your protein goals unhealthy.
dont confuse the typical louisiana meal of rice smoothered in gravy make you think its unhealthy.
simply grilling up some chicken breast and placing over a cup of rice, 1/4 a diced onion and 1/2 can of drained black beans forms a great meal that can easily be adjusted to meet ones macros.
and despite what you might have read from an unsourced paper or book....carbs are not the enemy. nor do you need them.
one should simply meet their protein goal and use the rest of the calories to eat like they prefer.
I personally prefer to eat keto, but thats just my personal preference that allows me to stick to a caloric deficit. Personally i like to use intermittent fasting to help me control calories, but none of that is needed.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:59 am to lsu777
Plus people from japan seem to do well with white rice.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:02 am to weagle99
It’s our food first and foremost, but also our driving culture/infrastructure. Our heavily processed food is the biggest culprit - rich people are less fat than poor people primarily because they can afford less processed food. But our driving infrastructure results in people walking very little, whereas in most other countries you have to walk to get where you’re going or you walk to the public transport. Walking 1 more or a few more miles a day will make a significant impact over the long haul
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:02 am to lsu777
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hate to break it to you, but americans would be right in this case.
Well, regardless of who's "right" the Americans are definitely less healthy on aggregate so it still seems there's something wrong with the mindset that got us here.
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