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re: Coming back into the US and noticing all the fats walking around

Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:35 am to
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
20496 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:35 am to
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It's not hard to figure out why Americans are fat. Sedentary lifestyle with poor diet practices.


Add in the normalization of being fat now, and here we are.
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
3702 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:35 am to
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“Calories in>>>calories out. It’s that simple.”

Dr. Robert Lustig in his book METABOLICAL says that’s not true.
Anyone still believes that seriously needs to read his book.
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
7312 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:35 am to
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i mean overall fatloss isnt hard

1) priortize protein
2) set a calorie limit of 10-11x bodyweight
3) weigh and log food.
4) get 10k steps a day
5) follow a proper free weight program that uses progressive overload 2-4x a week and make it fit your schedule.
6) sleep 7 hours every night


Pretty much it.

It's so simple. I wouldn't say it's easy, you just have to get fed up with being fat. And when you have an unhealthy relationship with food it can be torture abstaining from fried foods, sugar, etc. But the way you feel after is worth it.

I do have a bit of a cheat code, as my wife is unable to eat any food that would be considered "good" to most people. If we eat out all she can eat is fish/chicken/steak with a baked potato or vegetable. No burger, no pasta, no etoufee, no boudin, no anything that would traditionally make your mouth water other than steak.

As a result we cook almost every meal at home, and our dinner is one of:

Steak/potatoes
chicken stir fry (special stir fry ingredients she can have)
Chicken/rize/zucchini
Cod fish/potatoes

It sounds miserable, and it's been hard getting used to it, but after a while you realize that food is much better as a means to the end rather than the end itself. We eat fish and potatoes at 6, and it's pretty bland, but at the end of the day its food. And I feel amazing when I wake up the next morning. I've also been walking 1.5 miles 3 times a day (in addition to weight training/bike rides), because my job is just sitting all day, and it's so much easier to see that walk as a treat if I'm not sweating out garbage from the night before.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20445 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:36 am to
Explain "put a little effort into it"?
Posted by SpyBoy
New Orleans
Member since May 2007
943 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:36 am to
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White rice and beans? Are you fricking kidding me? You call that healthy?

Cook that yourself and add a veggie and thats likely to be healthier than most meals consumed by the American on average. At least theres micronutrients, fiber, etc.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260483 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:36 am to
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As a result we cook almost every meal at home


Same.

Can eat healthy and cheaper, control 100% of my diet.
Posted by VolunGator
Franklin, TN
Member since Jan 2020
1141 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:36 am to
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We fill our bodies with unhealthy food and way too much of it and don't move enough


DING, DING, DING.
WE HAVE A WINNER
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260483 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:37 am to
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Explain "put a little effort into it"?


WTF?

Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83571 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:38 am to
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White rice and beans? Are you fricking kidding me? You call that healthy?


whats wrong with white rice and beans?

my go-to meal prep lunch is 2 lbs ground deer meat/beef, can of black beans, sautéed veggies, and white rice portioned into 4 meals

tell me why that isn't healthy
This post was edited on 5/16/22 at 9:40 am
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31048 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:39 am to
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Never heard about this one. Is it 10-11x current weight, or projected body weight.


for most people a realistic starting point to maintain weight is 11.7x their current weight. This is assuming 30-50 with white collar type job.

to lose a realistic amount of weight, start with about 10x current body weight.

if after 2 weeks, you are not losing 1-2lbs per week, lower by 200 cals. take a 200lbs male for example that works an office job

11.7 * 200 = 2340 cals per day to maintain weight

10*200=2000 cals which gives him a 340 cal deficiet

then he should start lifting 2-3x per week and trying to get around 1x bw in grams per protein.

so in this case

2000 calories
200g protein-800 cals

from there he can make up the rest of the calories as he likes and whatever helps him stick to the diet. The rest of the calories are going to have minimal effect on overall body comp and minimal health benifits. those effects are mainly going to come from the caloric deficiet and the higher protein intake.

sure there are benifits from cutting all processed foods, cutting carbs, being very selective on type of fat you take in but those also make the diet exceptionally harder.

dont let the fear of not being perfect affect the overall goal.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
18284 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:40 am to
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White rice and beans? Are you fricking kidding me? You call that healthy?


You can absolutely be healthy with meals consisting of rice, beans, a protein and veggies. You just have to have the proper portions.

What do you think east Africans, Indians, and east Asians are having for every meal?
This post was edited on 5/16/22 at 9:41 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118773 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:40 am to
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high fructose corn syrup


This is the reason.

90% of fructose is converted to fat in the liver. Only 10% is immediately used for energy. It’s the opposite for glucose( aka, dextrose). 90% of glucose is used as energy and 10% converted to fat.

FWIW, fructose and ethanol follow the same metabolic path in the liver. The problem with fructose is that you don’t get immediate feedback like ethanol so a lot of people keep consuming fructose without realizing he harm.

Additionally fructose is a leptin blocker. Leptin is the hormone that tells your brain that you are full.

Ever since HFCS came on the scene since the 80s people have increased their caloric intake of fast foods by ~150 calories per meal.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31048 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:40 am to
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Quote:
“Calories in>>>calories out. It’s that simple.”

Dr. Robert Lustig in his book METABOLICAL says that’s not true.
Anyone still believes that seriously needs to read his book.



and he is a quake and we have over 100 studies that prove only calories and protein matter in the grand scheme when it comes to bodyweight and bodyfat.


anyone can write a non sourced book or cherry pick incomplete studies to try and prove a point.
This post was edited on 5/16/22 at 9:41 am
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20445 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:40 am to
I consider rice and beans to be terrible for you. Because you're not gonna just eat rice and beans. You're gonna make some type of gravy. And if you don't live an active lifestyle, the rice is bad for you.

If anything, he proved my point by not even trying. Like I said, I could go get some chicken rice and beans and make smothered chicken with beans. But that shite ain't what I call "healthy".

Now do the same thing but get some chicken and some fresh green veggies and compare the ticket at the register.
Posted by Dixie Normus
Earth
Member since Sep 2013
2636 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:41 am to
Dude, more likely than not, 7’s has forgotten more about health and fitness than you will ever know. Don’t bring a knife to a gunfight.

And yes, rice and beans are healthy when eaten in moderation. Ask any top-tier athlete what one of their primary carb sources is and they’ll tell you the same thing. They just don’t make it with fatty sausage and gravy’s that carry a couple hundred empty calories.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83571 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:42 am to
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I consider rice and beans to be terrible for you. Because you're not gonna just eat rice and beans. You're gonna make some type of gravy.




quote:

And if you don't live an active lifestyle, the rice is bad for you.


how is rice "bad" for you?

Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20445 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:42 am to
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What do you think east Africans, Indians, and east Asians are having for every meal?
The difference is that those people walk everywhere they go. That's a terrible comparison. If you stay active all the time and/or an athlete, then yes by all means eat as much rice as you want.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260483 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:44 am to
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White rice and beans? Are you fricking kidding me? You call that healthy?


Absolutely. In moderation.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20445 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:44 am to
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how is rice "bad" for you?


I'm done. Here comes the little yip yip dog to play the role of the contrarian.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20445 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:45 am to
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’s has forgotten more about health and fitness than you will ever know.
I doubt it, but ok.
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