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re: College student kicked off plane for speaking Arabic on phone
Posted on 4/18/16 at 12:19 pm to Dr RC
Posted on 4/18/16 at 12:19 pm to Dr RC
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More individual instances of people getting on the wrong wide of bikers has happened in that time than Muslim's committing acts of terrorism.
this is a great example of the bias in the OP. Just from a different perspective
Posted on 4/18/16 at 12:20 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Just curious, where do you get your data from? If you're going on sheer numbers, there are probably more muslims than hardcore bikers in the USA
Sure, there are more Muslims than hardcore bikers in the US.
However, the FBI estimates there are about 44k outlaw bikers on the low end. They are considered to be crime syndicates by law enforcement.
There are 3.3 million Muslims in the US. They have not released how many US Muslims are on the watch list but its in the thousands.
Posted on 4/18/16 at 12:21 pm to Dr RC
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However, the FBI estimates there are about 44k outlaw bikers on the low end. They are considered to be crime syndicates by law enforcement.
There are 3.3 million Muslims in the US. They have not released how many US Muslims are on the watch list but its in the thousands.
That really doesn't support your point.
My point, you have a bias and are acting on it.
Posted on 4/18/16 at 12:25 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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My point, you have a bias and are acting on it.
While pointing out Darth's hypocrisy.
Posted on 4/18/16 at 12:26 pm to junkfunky
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While pointing out Darth's hypocrisy.
Correct. We're all biased, and the position we will defend depends on our ideology
Posted on 4/18/16 at 12:27 pm to junkfunky
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While pointing out Darth's hypocrisy.
bottom line is that old boy should've been speakin' 'Merican and none of this would have happened
Posted on 4/18/16 at 12:27 pm to Fun Bunch
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Let's not pretend like you wouldn't have a momentary pants-shitting moment if you heard this on a plane.
I did.. told some LSU students flying to dallas on a plane with me in 2002 to please speak english..
Posted on 4/18/16 at 12:30 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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That really doesn't support your point.
My point, you have a bias and are acting on it.
I'm biased as hell, because I feel safer being around outlaw bikers than outlaw Muslims. This whole defense of Muslims to me is insane. They are like a plague who ruins everything around them.
They have no successful Muslim community over seas, their religion is based off of war and chaos.
Liberals who defend Muslims are the most ignorant, seeing that they literally disagree with you on everything.
The ones who defend them, are the ones they laugh at for their ignorance.
And I'm wasting my time, deaf ears hear what they want. Out.
This post was edited on 4/18/16 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 4/18/16 at 12:39 pm to bayoumuscle21
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They have no successful Muslim community over seas, their religion is based off of war and chaos.
Their religion is based on the premise of peace. Out of two billion Muslims in the world, a few extremists don't characterize the entire religion any more than the KKK members that call themselves Christian do to Christianity.
Posted on 4/18/16 at 12:39 pm to bayoumuscle21
There are 1.6 billion Muslims in the world and you can't fathom any of them living in successful communities overseas? Come on now.
We shoul all be able to agree that a larger percentage of the Muslim population is dangerous than any other major religion, but let's not try to embed some myth that 100% of them are incapable of living in western socieities. That's the sort of cheap rhetoric that causes liberals to overreact and defend the entire population of them.
You are making the exact same mistake the left is, you're just on the other side of it. And both of your mistakes are reinforcing the other side's belief in their own. Stop dealing in absolutes when you're looking at this humanity on this scale; it's leading your perspective to be just as narrow as those you deride
We shoul all be able to agree that a larger percentage of the Muslim population is dangerous than any other major religion, but let's not try to embed some myth that 100% of them are incapable of living in western socieities. That's the sort of cheap rhetoric that causes liberals to overreact and defend the entire population of them.
You are making the exact same mistake the left is, you're just on the other side of it. And both of your mistakes are reinforcing the other side's belief in their own. Stop dealing in absolutes when you're looking at this humanity on this scale; it's leading your perspective to be just as narrow as those you deride
Posted on 4/18/16 at 12:46 pm to SabiDojo
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No, they just threw people in ovens and committed other means of mass torture/genocide.
Well, if I were sitting in a oven and started hearing German dialect then I'd damn sure get nervous. Probably almost as nervous as I would if I heard Arabic on a plane.
This post was edited on 4/18/16 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 4/18/16 at 12:50 pm to Goldrush25
quote:And the first fricking post following Bayou's proves me right...
That's the sort of cheap rhetoric that causes liberals to overreact and defend the entire population of them
quote:Don't mischaracterize Islamic extremeists as existing in the same portion as do KKK members. That's the sort of verifiably false bullshite that causes people like Bayou to overreact and hate all Muslims.
Out of two billion Muslims in the world, a few extremists don't characterize the entire religion any more than the KKK members that call themselves Christian do to Christianity
Posted on 4/18/16 at 12:51 pm to funnystuff
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We shoul all be able to agree that a larger percentage of the Muslim population is dangerous than any other major religion, but let's not try to embed some myth that 100% of them are incapable of living in western socieities. That's the sort of cheap rhetoric that causes liberals to overreact and defend the entire population of them. You are making the exact same mistake the left is, you're just on the other side of it. And both of your mistakes are reinforcing the other side's belief in their own. Stop dealing in absolutes when you're looking at this humanity on this scale; it's leading your perspective to be just as narrow as those you deride
You can believe this all you want, but the blanketed side that will be prejudice towards Muslims would be a safer place where there would be no risk of ever riding on a suicide plane. The liberals on the left are enablers that would love to open the gates to this country freely which would then allow terrorism to breed at an alarming rate. On the surface, your statement makes sense but you never seem to look at the reasoning of why it even exists. I don't want Muslims around here simply because of self preservation. I, along with my family and friends are safer if Im not around them, and that is not debatable.
Posted on 4/18/16 at 12:51 pm to SabiDojo
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The Hells Angels have over 230 chapters and are in 26 countries worldwide. They operate on 6 continents. One could argue they are a threat everywhere.
And how often do you hear about the HAs doing any of the following....
A. Hijacking planes
B. Blowing up planes
C. Blowing up airports
D. Hijacking planes and flying into buildings
E. Going into a newspaper and shooting everyone
F. Boarding a bus and blowing everyone up
H. Going into a hospital and shooting everyone
I. Strapping on a bomb and blowing up a night club
J. Throwing people off buildings
K. Beheading people in the town square
L. Crucifying people in the town square
M. Burning people alive in a cage
N. Stoning people to death in the town square
O. Going into a mall and mowing everyone down
P. Going into a party and mowing everyone down?
Q. Going to an armed forces recruiting station and mowing everyone down.
R. Using their car to run people over on purpose.
S. Going into a diner and hacking people to death with a machete.
T. Planting bombs at a large public gathering like a huge marathon.
U. Getting on a train and opening fire on everyone
V. Using a butchers knife to stab an innocent kid on the subway
W. Using a meat cleaver to hack to death random people on the street
X. Strap explosives to people and blow them up
Y. Shoot people with an RPG
Z. Shoot little girls in the head because they went to school.
I'll hang up and listen.
This post was edited on 4/18/16 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 4/18/16 at 12:55 pm to slackster
quote:Your reasoning is so bad. Not everyone who drinks water is a mass murderer, but all mass murderers drink water, therefore we should be suspicious of anyone drinking water
Middle Eastern, speaking in his native tongue, on a phone, on a plane, and ending the conversation with "----allah."
Not everyone who does that is a terrorist, but all terrorist do that, so stop with your holier than thou BS. That doesn't mean you should get kicked off the plane, but stop acting surprised that many people would be moved to report such a series of events.
Posted on 4/18/16 at 12:55 pm to Goldrush25
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That's the sort of cheap rhetoric that causes liberals to overreact and defend the entire population of them
No, liberals hate the "majority" of any category and go way off the deep end to defend anything "minority" in this country. It's irrational.
Posted on 4/18/16 at 12:57 pm to Hog on the Hill
I am going to go out on a limb and say you don't believe in profiling 
Posted on 4/18/16 at 12:58 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Yes, fallacious straw man arguments are irrational.
No, liberals hate the "majority" of any category and go way off the deep end to defend anything "minority" in this country. It's irrational.
Posted on 4/18/16 at 1:03 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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No, liberals hate the "majority" of any category and go way off the deep end to defend anything "minority" in this country. It's irrational.
Are you sure? Have you spoken to all liberals?
Posted on 4/18/16 at 1:03 pm to Hog on the Hill
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Not everyone who drinks water is a mass murderer, but all mass murderers drink water, therefore we should be suspicious of anyone drinking water
Not all blacks living in the ghetto are gangmembers, but would you want to walk 10 blocks down their street at night? What about walking down an alley in NOLA at night?
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