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Posted on 1/12/25 at 10:53 pm to
Posted by danilo
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 10:53 pm to
Can’t do both? Don’t have to volunteer 40 hours a week
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 11:10 pm to
Football looks good on a college application. It tells the admissions committee that your son is no stranger to hard work and discipline.
Posted by BigApple
Member since Jun 2022
889 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 5:50 am to
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He wants to go out of state to a small school


If it’s a small liberal arts school, your relative is 10000% correct.
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Bogalusa
Member since Jul 2018
6746 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 6:07 am to
As a person that thinks sports are an absolute waste of time, it would be absolutely stupid for him to quit the team to do this. I’ve got 2 college degrees, working on a 3rd, and none of that has ever mattered.
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
7325 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 7:05 am to
Join clubs in school (or not school) that do volunteer work. Most clubs do something that he can put on an app.

Anything interesting may or may not stand out, but no need to skip something he enjoys for volunteering. There's a lot of hours in a week.
Posted by John Cocktosten
Everywhere and Nowhere
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 7:07 am to
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Relative helping out with college app process is telling him to drop football practice to volunteer at a disabled children's camp to look good on college applications.


College prof here: that’s bad advice. Quitting in senior year raises more red flags than a sudden uptick in community service. In fact, might make folks wonder if there were some issues forcing him off the team and into community service.

Demonstrating the ability to “stick with” something is one of (for me) the best indicators of future success. It doesn’t hurt to get some service but maybe make it related to the sport: do some extra stuff for the team, volunteer to help with JV, freshman, little league, etc; start a program where he gets fb players to volunteer once a month somewhere like an old folks home or school. Tons of things they can do to show that he’s a high achieved but also understands the importance of giving back.
Posted by TheOcean
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 7:10 am to
Can he breathe and tie his shoes? If so, he will get into LSU
Posted by Coater
Madison, MS
Member since Jun 2005
33334 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 7:34 am to
Tell him to drop off a bag of dogfood at the local animal shelter and he can say he volunteered there
Posted by SpaceCamp
Member since Nov 2020
406 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:52 am to
Long-term activities always look better than short-term activities. Dropping out in his senior year would be a bad look.

Honestly, unless he is applying for a top 50 school, most schools don't put much weight on extracurriculars. That small school is competing to get your kid's tuition money because many are struggling to stay afloat.

For smaller schools, grades, test scores, and extracurriculars really only start to matter when it comes to scholarships. My oldest graduated last year, and we went through the application process.
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
7325 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:52 am to
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He wants to go out of state to a small school. Grades are okay for that. He was 3 sports, going down to 2 now so he could load up on Advanced Placement classes.


Are you concerned about him getting in, or getting a scholly?

Financial help is mostly based on your and your wife's income.

There is some help not based on money, but probably not much if his grades and test scores aren't way up there.

Based on my one child, she had superb grades, a bunch of AP classes, lot's of extra-curricular, and pretty high test scores. She got the "max" scholly that we heard of at the school she ended up at, and it covered about 1/3 of the cost.

Not trying to be discouraging, but that's what we found at all the schools she looked at. It's 5 years later, and maybe things have changed now.

We paid someone to help us shop schools, and her help was very valuable. She'd be able to give you some guidance on your question. Give her a call if you're near BR. 225-205-86 ninety-six
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
34858 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:19 am to
i will never understand the volunteering thing. For something helping out those that are disabled sure but some of these colleges want you volunteering for 3-4 different things mainly helping the poor because of their stupid arse liberal Admissions office.

the fricking poor should have paid attention in school and not made terrible decisions.

to the op, unless he is going for something very very specific or needs the connections to go into politics, big law or big 4 accounting or maybe silicon valley tech type stuff.....then screw all that. just have him play football and volunteer if he wants.

what schools is he trying to get into?
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
34858 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:21 am to
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As a person that thinks sports are an absolute waste of time, it would be absolutely stupid for him to quit the team to do this. I’ve got 2 college degrees, working on a 3rd, and none of that has ever mattered.


yet here you are with a couple thousand post on a sports board
Posted by Thracken13
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Member since Feb 2010
18170 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:26 am to
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No school will give a frick about that.

Your relative is living in 1953.


or got confused and thought it was the application for Miss America
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
6806 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:26 am to
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Relative helping out with college app process is telling him to drop football practice to volunteer at a disabled children's camp to look good on college applications.
This seems absurd to me.


I think it looks better on a college app to stick with something they care about. Being named captain means something. Volunteering a single year at this camp would seem quite disingenuous unless he truly cares about this and can elaborate well about why he would make such a choice. Example: I plan on being a physical therapist and want to work with children with disabilities. This opportunity came up and because it's what I want to do, I chose to leave the football team. Otherwise, stick with football.

The idea isn't to just do stuff to put on a resume. He should do things he cares about and be able to articulate what it has meant to him, why he cares, and how it's helped him grow in leadership, perseverance, time management, personal satisfaction, etc. Just ticking boxes isn't the way to go. Be good enought at grades and test scores to get them to read your essay. Have a good enough essay for them to interview you and then hopefully he is able to share with them who he is and why he wants to attend that school.
This post was edited on 1/13/25 at 9:30 am
Posted by Lake08
Member since Jun 2023
1874 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 10:20 am to
Claim to be a minority on the app. Problem solved
Posted by bazeball
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Member since Jun 2006
554 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 10:22 am to
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played varsity football and may be one of tge captains next year

This is a good extracurricular. Absolutely do not quit.
quote:

Relative helping out with college app process

Do they know what they are doing? Serious question. There are plenty of consultants out there if your son is in need of advice.
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volunteer at a disabled children's camp

Incredibly cliche. Helping your local community is the benefit. If that were my child, I'd have him volunteering at football camps or sports camps for the underprivileged this summer. That fits his profile much better.

If he's trying to go to a private school out of state, especially a good one, grades and academic accomplishments are the focus. Those matter much more than extracurriculars.

Note: If he's serious about getting into a top school. he needs to be visiting schools if he can. Plan ahead and coordinate a spring break trip to see schools. By the end of the junior year, they need a working school list, their ACT completed, and letters of recommendation requested from two teachers (do this in May).
Good luck to you both.
Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
11192 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 10:24 am to
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This seems absurd to me.


because it is. Schools today care about what you are doing at school. Meaning he might consider joining some other club at school, if he has time w football, like business leaders, foreign language, etc....
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
26051 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 11:37 am to
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He wants to go out of state to a small school. Grades are okay for that. He was 3 sports, going down to 2 now so he could load up on Advanced Placement classes.

He should apply to Notre Dame. That University only has only 8,900 undergrads and at least 10% of the student population is a Div. I athlete in some sport. Having played sports in high school along with AP classes is exactly what can get you in.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
39754 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 11:44 am to
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Relative helping out with college app process is telling him to drop football practice to volunteer at a disabled children's camp


Remove this relative from any association with the process going forward.

That's my advice.
Posted by bazeball
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Member since Jun 2006
554 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 1:03 pm to
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Having played sports in high school along with AP classes is exactly what can get you in (to Notre Dame).


That and a 34+ ACT
This post was edited on 1/13/25 at 2:14 pm
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